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Aaaahahahaahhahha that’s a good one. Just like they stood behind Joe Biden and didn’t tell everyone to fuck Biden or kill him…
This is American, here you respect result on free election. So you don’t, for instance, start a huge riot with the goal of overturning the election, 14 days before the inauguration of the new president, supporting the movement to hang your VP and attacking the US capitol.
FUN FACT literally the 2nd paragraph of the declaration of Independence gives all Americans the right to overthrow the government if it infringes on your rights and implement a government that better respects your rights
(note, depending on the transcription or print it might not even have paragraphs)
The Declaration of Independence doesn’t give Americans any rights, because it’s not part of the Constitution and it’s not law.
I live on the opposite side of the world and even I remember when Obama wore a fucking tan suit once more than 10 years ago because Republicans threw such a big tantrum over it.
That’s such a perfect microcosm of how unabashedly childish they are. I get that most of them are probably racist but HOW can you POSSIBLY care about someone wearing a tan suit? If I was Obama I would have worn it every day for a month just to spite them. It’s the same as when they shat their pants when AOC got like a $300 hair treatment or something. It pisses me off so much.
But what about that elitist Dijon mustard he put on his hamburger? That was a real travesty.
Or the time he served too many peas at dinner?
The terrorist fist jab
He put his shoes on the Presidential Desk!
… as has basically every President in the last 40 years, in at least one photo, but Augh freak out when Obama does it!
Telling a voter that to help climate change at a very small individual level they could make sure their car tire PSI is up to the recommended level.
Then Republicans said that that was “Obama’s foreign policy”.
Or how about when they pretended “lipstick on a pig” was a slight to Palin?
Or how about when they forced him to reaffirm “In God We Trust” on the money.
Or how about Michelle Obama just fucking existing and claiming she’s a man.
Fuck all of them.
Her sleeveless dresses practically made all the regressive’s dicks shrivel up and fall off.
I don’t remember that one.
Michelle and Barack did a fist bump and a Fox News commentator called it a “terrorist fist jab”
How else could republicans attack a guy who deported more people, bombed more countries, and saw the immiseration of more black families than either Bush or Trump? Right-wing democrats are more competent at being republicans than actual republicans.
They freaked out because of the choice of leaf in his salad! (Arugula) That obviously makes him the Antichrist.
And a man of good taste; Arugala is best salad
And dijon is the superior mustard. It’s just further proof that some people have more money than sense and just want what they’ve always had.
I mean really it’s that some people’s interface with the world is backwards.
Instead of it being like
“Facts” -> “Emotions”
for many people it’s
“Emotions” -> “Facts”
They don’t like Obama. Therefore, whatever he did is bad. That’s it. They’re like the common clay of the new west.
I think Seth Meyers did a thing about how the right wing was freaking out about Biden having ice cream and saying that’s unpresidential and for old people, but like literally the same week Trump had ice cream and it was not a problem.
I retired dijon after that, and you know what? It’s fuckin awesome.
Opposing parties have never been happy about newly elected presidents.
“Own when you lose”? Bitch, we remember Jan 6th. Nevermind Obama.
There is a reason they skipped past Biden and said Obama.
We all rallied behind Clinton.
(I read the Monica Lewinsky thing was only found when they were searching something else desperately trying to find something to impeach him on. Because Nixon was impeached.)
There’s bombing the pharma plant in Sudan that killed 10,000 and an unknown number of downstream people due to lack of medicine, there was the sanctions on Iraq, estimated to have killed 1 million, mostly children, the acceleration of Israeli settlements, dropping cluster bombs on Yugoslavia, etc all right there.
But republicans only issue with those crimes is that Clinton didn’t kill enough foreigners.
Given what I know about the Yugoslav wars I can say with near absolute certainty that using cluster munitions on Yugoslavia (Serbia) was entirely warranted.
No, using cluster munitions is never fucking warranted, the land is still blighted today, 25 years later.
Ill feel sorry for them when the Serbian government stops trying to be little Russia. Until then I will propose that they deserve an increase in munitions saturation.
Unexploded cluster munitions don’t target Serbian politicians, they tend to hurt children more frequently than anyone else.
This is why it’s almost universally agreed that weapons that don’t discriminate between soldiers and civilians and continue killing long after a conflict has ended are a special kind of evil and a crime to use even in war.
The other reason being that less precise weapons just aren’t as effective at actually destroying military targets.
Yep, the Starr report was basically hundreds of pages of mostly legally irrelevant sensationalism, and Republicans charged taxpayers 40 million to make it.
But what do you mean? The election was stolen, it doesn’t count /s
On top of all of that, they also stole a SCOTUS appointment
Arguably, Roberts, Alito, and Thomas are the only legitimate conservative appointments on the court. That’s on the basis of Bush’s second term being the only one where they took a majority of the popular vote (or even a plurality, until this past election). Even that is turning a blind eye to Anita Hill’s testimony against Thomas.
They should be in a strong minority, but somehow, it’s the opposite.
THERE WAS A FAILED COUP.
YOU STORMED THE CAPITOL.
We have a traitor in the white house that has sold his soul to one of our greatest enemies (Putin) and as you said, tried to become king as president. Let’s not talk about niceties and etiquette.
Let’s not forget the unprecedented amount of obstructionism from Republicans under Obama. They set several records for the use of the filibuster and filibustered more of Obama’s nominees than literally all previous presidents’ combined.
I’d like to stand directly behind Trump. Especially if he was near a cliff.
Got to watch put for that backblast
I am an American and I can tell you first hand that:
1: Donald Trump is my president elect, regardless of how I may
2: There were certainly some conservatives who, regardless of how they felt, acknowledged Obama as their president.
3: There were absolutely many who did not accept Obama as president (not that it made a difference, because he was still president, same as Trump).
That said, I hope Trump does well for all of us and that all of the terrible predictions about what will happen were just silly and wrong.
They weren’t silly and wrong last time.
He won’t be Hitler 2.0, but he’ll do some terrible things.
He’s corrupt and will do things to enrich himself. This is what he did before. That’s bad, especially because some of the things he did jeopardized lives (especially when it comes to COVID, but certainly not exclusively). However, the people handling him this time are much more dangerous. This is what worries me most about this go round.
Obama’s thanks for passing the ACA was to lose the House of Reps for years 3 and 4. Then lose it again for years 5 and 6. And then lose the House and Senate for years 7 and 8. Even the left didn’t stand behind Obama.
If the dems wanted the left to stand behind them, they should have gotten rid of the filibuster and passed actual free, universal healthcare instead of the republican plan that just amounted to extra subsidies for insurance companies. Also they shouldn’t have bombed a dozen Middle Eastern and African countries while bailing out the banks that just foreclosed on millions of homes and deporting more people than either Bush or Trump.
When you betray the voters who elected you by giving republicans half the discretionary budget and adopting their policy even when they’re going to vote against it, you decrease turnout. When you improve people’s immediate material conditions, you increase turnout.
If you want more, then vote in more Senators so Lieberman can’t water it down. That’s how it works.
Not to mention the oddity of “we didn’t exactly what we wanted in the first months, so we’re just going to give up for the next 6 years and then let Trump in. Surely that will work.”
It doesn’t work that way for republicans. When republicans are in power, they don’t handicap themselves with the filibuster or the parliamentarian or PAYGO or let single members block everything without the threat of getting kicked off committee assignments and denied GOP funding/campaign resources.
They chose to let Lieberman be the villain of the week because they don’t want the same things the left wants.
You can whine that people won’t vote for politicians who don’t do what they elected them to do, but that’s not how democracy works. Doing things that are unpopular with the base and failing to do the things you were elected to do decreases turnout.
Dems manage to filibuster plenty.
There’s also the oddity of “we didn’t exactly what we wanted in the first months, so we’re just going to give up for the next 6 years and then let Trump in. Surely that will work!” Want progress? Dems need consistent and overwhelming victories. Not 2 years out of every 16 years (the average of when the Dems have all 3 of presidency, house of reps, and senate).
Oh ml user. Why do I bother.
Dems manage to filibuster plenty.
As soon as the republicans got into power they removed the filibuster.
There’s also the oddity of “we didn’t exactly what we wanted in the first months
Congrats, you understand how elections work. You do what you were elected to do and you don’t do things the base doesn’t want you to do or you decrease turnout.
Republicans removed the filibuster only on the issue of judicial nominations. That might seem nitpicky but it’s a critical distinction.
Republicans removed the filibuster only on the issue of judicial nominations.
Which, in hindsight it’s obvious why they wanted to do that, and makes it clear they had a coherent strategy the whole time.
Let me know when not voting in protest works! Any time now! [As Trump gleefully dismantles everything.] Ciao.
This is not a strategy it is a description of how elections work.
Is this lefty representation in the room with us right now?
Additionally, the problem isn’t that he’s not on the “right team” - it’s that he’s a hateful, dangerous pos that is an actual threat to many citizens and the country at large. But repubs have been screaming the same thing hyperbolically for multiple decades at this point, so now when it’s a real issue, it gets swept under the rug as “sore losers”. People are so fucking stupid.
It’s like the “Boy Who Cried Wolf” story, but with a twist: instead of the boy shouting about wolves, the wolves disguise themselves as townsfolk and keep shouting “wolf” so often that no one takes it seriously anymore. So when the boy finally cries out for help, no one listens.
I told a story about how one of the only time I stood up to my awful mother was about this very thing.
I spent time complaining about Bush, and my mother would always whine that you “have” to support the president.
The minute Obama won, she came to me parroting some sort of Fox nonsense, and I engaged her for a while before realizing, “You have to support the president!” She pointed out that I didn’t blindly support Bush, and I answered that I believe it’s the job of all citizens to question their government (as I openly criticized Obama many times), but she believed you have to “support the president,” so when she didn’t, she was a hypocrite.
One of the few times I pushed back, and one of the few times she was actually silenced by logic. A memory I hold dear.
Wait, what?
They actually have the gall to say they stood behind Obama?
Obama’s presidency was the exact point at which toxicity and hate became the overt centerpieces of Republican identity - when they stopped even pretending to be motivated by “fiscal conservatism” and instead gave themselves up entirely to just sowing division and spewing hatred.
Hell - virtually the first thing they did was co-opt the formerly libertarian Tea Party movement, which started out, under Bush, as a series of protests against the Wall Street bailouts - and converted it into a traveling right- wing carnival of hate. That became the entire point of it - after the Republicans took it over, the bailouts were never even mentioned again - all it was was an opportunity for right-wingers to congratulate themselves on how much they hated the left, and especially how much they hated Obama.
It’s not too much of a stretch to say that everything MAGA has become - all of the division and all of the hatred and all of the lies - traces back specifically to how the hateful bigots among the Republicans reacted to Obama’s presidency and the influence they came to hold over the rest of the party.
The tea party was astroturfed and was their construct from day one, they didn’t coopt it.
Yeah the only reason Trump even ran for president in the first place was because he became a Republican attack dog for pushing the racist as fuck birther conspiracy.
