The full scale of the finding out part will occur in 2028. Yes, the USA is going to be a massive train wreck with Putin’s Sock Puppet increasing socialism to cover up his failures. For example, farm subsidies in 2017 were around $7 billion and in 2020, he nailed $23 billion. The abused Payment Protection Plan…$953 billion down the drain. We’ll see if the Louisiana bird flu really mutates and busts out of the red run turd hole.
Grandpa was crying about losing his workforce at the factory due to border laws.
Oh sorry did the consequences of your vote come sooner than you thought?
Dumb cunt
“I didn’t think stopping immigration and deporting immigrants would mean not getting more immigrants to work and deporting MY workforce!”
Fool me once, shame on…shame on you. Fool me—you can’t get fooled again.
love me some isms, comedy gold
They misunderestimated me.
Bush Jr was really something else. 😂
Mission Accomplished
Yeah, but remember when we thought you couldn’t get any worse than him?
To be fair he put down the seeds of trumpiness.
Those seeds were sewn much earlier. Jr. was fertilizer.
I have spoken to a voter of Trump who formerly was in my circle. I honestly asked her what the reason was. Her answer?
“I just don’t like the other party.”
That was it. Now I imagine besides the obvious cultists, that people treated the general elections like as if we’re voting on two sports teams, that people had that same exact reason. “Oh I just don’t like that other party” all while having the blankest of stares, the breeze between their ears and the stoic walk of automated activity as they confidently and blindly voted for the wrong party.
People are primarily driven by emotion. Some people almost exclusively so.
You can’t really convince people of things with facts and figures. That’s like trying to heat your bedroom by making a bonfire down the street.
We’re all emotional, and all of us sometimes follow our feelings over more rational motivations. But a lot of people are pretty much all emotion, and they vote for bad policy.
People are primarily driven by emotion
Some people are driven by emotion, some driven by facts and logic. The balance has shifted to the “poorly educated” who are helpless against Putin’s psyops and Republican manipulation - “They are eating the cats”, indeed.
I think it’s important to recognize none of us are immune to emotion. We’re not Vulcans. Some people are a little better about keeping them in balance, but even that depends on factors like “did you get enough sleep?” and “do you feel secure and safe?”
If you stress anyone out long enough they’re going to become more emotional driven and less coolly rational.
Even Vulcans can be emotional depending upon their health and other circumstances. Vulcans still have emotions, they’ve simply learned to keep them in check (pretty effectively most of the time).
The human race can do this too, but we’re nowhere near ready.
Emotions are important to a full inner life, but letting them decide how you behave is a sign of immaturity.
How did the conversation actually go? Because my immediate question would have been “why was that your deciding factor?”
She was sugarcoating her bigotry and here you are questioning everything
“my mind generates words to say that make me win every encounter”
“I must fully understand psychology for it is impossible for others to be wrong – perhaps it’s my understanding of the cosmos. Perhaps they are victims of a grand campaign of misinformation. Nobody would disagree if we had the same facts, right? I must retreat to my haven in the mountains and meditate of mankind.”
Some people hide it? Duhhhhhh.
This small vocal fraction of MAGA on social media is so insignificant and irrelevant to most of the people who voted for Trump. There’s absolutely no chance my dumbass aunt is aware of any of this.
The fact that they think the modern Democratic Party is Marxist is crazy
Their entire echo chamber is paid to say that over and over and over so it just becomes reality to them.
It’s the same category as “woke” like this book:
Hallmark of brainwashing. Bypass critical thinking with vague statements of the outsiders “evil”, but keeps followers from actually thinking about what they are saying with those statements.
Oh yeah! Well then how do you explain that the transmission is working in kahoots with this engine! /s
And the whole engine is powered by terrorism.
Damn trannies, ruining women’s sports (that I don’t watch anyway). How would you like it if a female you knew had to use a bathroom with a …. Woman?
That’s why I like electric vehicles: no damn trannies. Gasoline engines are so woke! Wait ……
/s
It’s the “trans” mission.
Mission = agenda… have we just uncovered the tRaNs aGeNdA we keep hearing about‽ 😱
I looked it up and see, “Marxism is an economic and political theory that examines the flaws inherent in capitalism. It’s primarily based on the work of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. 1. Marxist theories were influential in the development of socialism, which advocates for the shared ownership of the means of production by workers”
… That sounds like it aligns with how I see it. I like to examine the flaws in capitalism and I don’t think that we, as a group, are benefitting from once CEO per company making an ass load of money via greed. Am I Marxist or no?
Don’t confuse “post-Marxist understanding” with “being a Marxist.”
Marx defined and described an ontology that even his opponents use as tools to describe the economy - but it wouldn’t make sense to call opponents of Marx as ‘Marxists’ would it?
Just examining flaws in and of itself isn’t socialism, although arguably saying capitalism has no flaws is pro-capitalist.
Do you want to abolish capital, corporations and private property?
I believe a limit on capital may better serve the citizens, or maybe a markup maximum? Maybe not having 30% APR as an allowable finance charge.
Or maybe when you reach $1B we take away all your money, maybe name a park after you, and put a little gold star on your ID and license plate so everyone can know you’re on New Game+ and are super good at capitalism. Then they can show everyone how it’s done by pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and proving they got rich through hard work and talent rather than luck and exploitation.
They win a golden McDonald’s card?
I’m starting to like those ideas… don’t threaten me with a good time. (Can’t be worse than the global oligarchy we currently have).
Instead of checking a dictionary, do you want to ask actual Marixists what they think of the Democratic Party? You can find plenty of them around here. They tend not to have anything nice to say about the Democrats, and would be insulted at the comparison.
The down votes indicate that. I’m not really understanding so I’m ready to just accept the hate and move on. 🤷
You have to pass the right gatekeepers to be Marxist because if there’s one thing Marxists don’t want is people on their side who don’t necessarily agree with 100% of every economic idea from one dude a century ago… Apparently
It’s because it’s very reductive and weird to look at this one-line definition and ask if you’re a Marxist. You’re not automatically Christian just because you like giving to the poor and you saw on Wikipedia that Christianity gives to the poor, there’s a lot more to it. You’re a Marxist if you look up Marx’s theory and decide you agree with all (maybe most) of it. There’s a spectrum greater than not liking CEOs making money before asking if you’re a Marxist, a Communist, or just a Libertarian.
Don’t let that stop you if you want to learn more about it to see if you still like it.
They’re talking about the modern Democratic Party, not you personally.
I wish Democrats were as cool as conservatives think they are.
Homelessness in usa increased by 20% from 2023. Family homelessness increased by 40%. >50% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. Your side lost because they did a shit job not because people were “fooled”.
Congrats on conclusively demonstrating you don’t understand how economies or governments work.
Our side lost because a plurality of people are too fucking stupid to know when someone is lying to their faces.
That is one way of looking at the previous election. Insulting those who voted against you usually does not bring them back to your side. Perhaps you should consider a change in strategy. I’m sure you knew that since you are so educated and superior. You could explain to them “how economies and governments work”. Have you actually spoken to any of these people? No. You just know they are stupid and easily tricked, no wonder they refused to vote for you.
Stfu putibot
Insulting those who voted against you usually does not bring them back to your side.
They didn’t vote against me. The problem is they voted against their own interests. They voted for bigger lies. Ie. Gullible
You could explain to them ….
No, we’ve all seen how logic and reason is futile. Touching base with reality does nothing. Actual experts are dismissed as less important than their echo chamber. Ie. Emotionally driven, easily manipulated
If you could explain to them, the unprecedented levels of fact checking, proven falsehoods, would have stopped this before the first term
Yes reality. Here is reality: record high personal debt, bankruptcies, homelessness, record high immigration for “amnesty”, the funding of foreign proxy wars and when actual citizens ask “please help us” the response is vote for us and maybe we will. That is their reality not that they “fell for big lies”. You are the one trapped in an echo chamber.
Trend since 2011 showing personal debt trending down or flat
data 2001-2022 showing bankruptcies way down. While it isn’t current, it would have to be up hundreds of percent
Ok homelessness was on a steady downward trend until a spike in the last year or two, undoing progress since 2007
Immigration for amnesty does not indicate a problem here but is more driven by problems elsewhere. It’s more difficult (and generally frowned upon) to interfere in other countries.
Helping Ukraine defend itself has generally been the popular choice, and it’s great for the US economy. The war in Gaza may not be popular but we’re not really spending money on it.
when actual citizens ask “please help us” the response is vote for us and maybe we will
One party has been trying to pursue healthcare reform, student loan debt, restore unions, bring manufacturing back to the us, invest in infrastructure and help transition us to a more modern economy, and other wants to distract with pointless trade wars and tariffs while cutting taxes for wealthy
According to Bank of America, the percentage of Americans living paycheck to paycheck has been increasing, with 47% of consumers reporting that they live this way in the third quarter of 2024
Car repossessions are up 23% in 2024 compared to the previous year, and 14% higher than pre-pandemic levels in 2019:
The homelessness rate in the United States increased from 1.75 to 1.96 per 1,000 people between 2022 and 2023, a 12% rise. This is the highest rate since 2012.
They’re just a troll
Yeah, I fall for those way too frequently
I sympathize with a lot of your points but this is what you’re doing ITT:
- Make the most toxic person in the world your party leader
- His example encourages your voters to spread unprecedented amounts of hostility and lies for 8 years
- Go on the internet and act super polite, as if you’ve done nothing wrong and the D’s are all crazy for not being nice to you anymore
R’s are never going to get any reconciliation until they at least admit to the shitstorm they’ve caused (and have just chosen to extend another 4 years). But I don’t see that happening on a party level. All they do is very occasionally say something like “both sides are getting too heated, let’s cool off a bit” which accepts no real responsibility and changes nothing.
Here is what you are doing. Pretending this is all about R’s and D’s, Trump and Biden but it’s not. It’s about regular people living decent maybe even good lives. The current administration did not deliver and lost the election. It’s that simple. You keep pretending like someone owes you an apology but no one owes you anything.
I agree with that too, US politics since Obama’s win has been “status quo” vs “desire for reform” and the D’s lost 2016/2024 by being on the wrong side. But you’re ignoring my entire comment and that’s a big factor in current attitudes as well. Winning the election on legit issues doesn’t mean you get a free pass for bad behavior.
We live in a democracy and the orange man won so apparently democracy disagrees with you. If they agreed then we would have had a different winner.
Don’t feed the troll
That was a global trend due to international affairs. A lot of ruling parties lost this year.
In the west, yes. Globally no.
“I got swindled by a shyster with a decades long track record, twice in a row! How did that happen?”
Openly evil Marxist traitors.
As opposed to the guys doing a bait and switch right? No betrayal there…
This is the perfect opportunity. MAGAs have been betrayed by their leader, and their leader (Musk) is inviting dozens of scabs from other countries to do what would otherwise be high paying jobs for peanuts.
We can turn the Left Vs. Right Dichotomy into a Rich Vs. Poor one. Much better odds
The people at fox “news” won’t do that, they’re the rich and paid by other rich people, and the MAGA masses are too brainwashed by them to listen to anyone else
Ummmmmmmm how are Democrats Marxist and how are they traitors??!
Fox news
More at 6:00
Dude I WISH Democrats were Marxist. Why do they always make Democrats seem better than they are.
Because while liberals have a vague, uselessly imprecise understanding of what some unimportant words mean, like liberal and socialist, the conservative base holds knowing things in active contempt and the leadership likes to keep them that way.
I’m curious what Trump lie led to this
The possibilities are endless!
The ouster of Bob Good and the H1-B visa controversy, I think.
I’m guessing probally the reverse inflation / food prices lie, it’s the only one I ever see bitched about, but yes there are many
Democrats being marxiste !
