Jfc, they’re USA citizens. Ffs.
Are they? Are they really? Puerto Rico still isn’t allowed to be it’s own state
Puerto Rican statehood is more complicated than that. Becoming a state is a contentious issue even amongst Puerto Ricans.
Is it?
I had friends there for a long time, they all basically either wanted the US out or had it be a US state, anything but this in between nothing that they’re in now
Yes it is. There is another referendum on statehood this year, but in 2020, the vote was only marginally higher in favor of it than against.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum
A 2019 Gallup poll found 83% of Democrats in the US, but only 35% of Republicans, supported Puerto Rican statehood. A 2020 survey by International Policy Digest found that “The majority of Democrats showed support for statehood for both D.C. (61.8%) and Puerto Rico (69.7%)” while among Republicans, only 26.7% supported D.C. statehood and 34.8% supported Puerto Rican statehood.
That speaks volumes.
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What a weird place this instance is.
implying that there are instances that aren’t like this
I mean, it’s not because they’re Puerto Rican, it’s because they live in Puerto Rico. Someone from Iowa who moved to Puerto Rico would also not get a vote.
This is because our system allocates votes to land, not people.
US citizens don’t get to vote for president. They get to vote for who their place of residence votes for.Up until the 60s, people in DC also didn’t get a vote, because by default only states get a vote, and it’s explicitly not a state.
Are they? Are they really?
Yes they really are. They are U.S. citizens who are disenfranchised based on location.
Yeah, maybe it wasn’t entirely clear there but I was trying to say that they were treated as second class citizens that can pay taxes but can’t vote becit of where they live
You do know that has nothing to do with being of Puerto Rican ethnicity, right? It has to do with living on Puerto Rico. You can be a citizen of Indonesian descent who lives on Puerto Rico and you still can’t vote for president. But that person, and all of the other U.S. citizens making up the population of Puerto Rico can just hop on a plane or a boat and come to the continental U.S. (or even Hawaii or Alaska), no passport needed, move there without any immigration issues, and vote in the next presidential election.
It doesn’t matter what your ethnicity is.
You also can’t vote for president if you live on American Samoa or Guam.
I thought that was what I said, but having said that, does any of that make sense to you?Puerto Rico is US territory, you should be able to vote. Same for Samoa and other territories
This was like 4th grade shit for me my man.
They are still U S. citizens, just not citizens of any state. Same thing can happen if you are born in DC or a military base not in a state.
American Samoans are the ones that really get screwed. They are just U S. nationals. All the responsibilities of citizens (including the draft when it exists) but not all of the benefits.
It was kind of my point that they were treated as second class citizens, like Samoans, just because of where they were born. Puerto Rico should be it’s own state already
I think maybe the text of your post did not convey that sentiment, particularly given the reliability of Poe’s Law. Perhaps in the future, you might include a visible indicator that you are using satire?
This was such a weird choice, when the GOP was already getting more Latino support than previously… Wouldn’t they want to court these people? Why would they straight up insult an entire voting bloc (one that experts have said could decide the outcome) this close to an election??
I know it’s most likely just racism and stupidity, but I couldn’t help but think that this dude did this on purpose to get less people to vote Republican? I mean, why else would they do this?
I previously knew this dude from his name, as the guy who writes most people’s (particularly non-comedians) insult jokes at Roasts. I’m kind of surprised (but not really, I believe he hangs/hung around Rogan) he’s a Trump supporter given the type of material he’s written in the past.
I’m not a fan of Roasts, but I’m pretty sure this dude was supposed to be considered like the best at that. At least previously.
Maybe someone who knows more about this guy can weigh in on it. It’s probably just racism if I’m being real.
He probably doesn’t know that Puerto Ricans can vote in US elections.
And a lot of them have moved to one of the 50 states.
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All humans are trash. There’s this misconception that poor people are better humans. They’re not, they’re just powerless.
In this case, if you take a person with almost nothing and tell them some with less is going to take what they have…
After the 2012 loss to Obama, the RNC commissioned an investigation into what they could do better. It said, effectively, stop being racist, embrace immigrants, and ease off on abortion.
They promptly threw it in the garbage.
I am not fan of Tony but I really love Shane Gillis. I loved the Trump and Biden(Shane and Adam) episode. It was the best comedy I’ve seen in quite a while.
Tony, Chapelle, and Joe Rogan are actively murdering comedy. They blame everyone but themselves because they can’t get with the times. They look down on people and punch down constantly, and still manage to miss the mark. They are not down to earth, they are not relatable, and they should NOT be looked up to.
That’s spot on.
If you look at actual funny people, they’ve worked out a way to do it without being heavily racist.
If you look at shows like Brooklyn 99, they did an amazing job at respecting everyone whilst being hilarious. The parts of this nonsense I saw, was just cringe. It seemed like they were trying more to advertise racism than going for humor, because even my mates are funnier and they’re not professionals
It feels like they were probably surrounded by yes men their whole lives so have lost touch
502 Bad Gateway…
Folks in Puerto Rico when they’re admitted as a state: “he tells it like it is.”
Racists can not help themselves. If there’s a MAGAt in your life, I can pretty much guarantee they’ll say some hateful shit at some point…
MAGA maggot lmao
I used to know someone who is half Puerto Rican, her dad is a marine, her mom is full PR. And they are ALL hardcore right wingers.
Even they wouldn’t switch votes after this.
“Surely he didn’t mean me, he meant those other sons of bitches who happen to look like me.” - Idiots practicing idiot logic.
“Must have confused us with Mexicans again. Damn Mexicans!”
Because Puerto Ricans can’t vote, right ?
Taxation without representation? There should be a thing about that
Why even say this? What a useless shitbag.
To them, cruelty is comedy.
But… PR is part of the US and is a wonderful place full of kind people. I spent one of the best vacations of my life there going all the way around the island (and Culebra!) and it was nothing but gorgeous views, great food, friendly people (it does help to speak Spanish so you understand d how friendly they are) and relaxing days.
And that was when the country was getting rocked by earthquakes and had recently been battered by a few climate-change monster hurricanes. Screw people who hate on PR, that place rocks and is more resilient than your average conservative commentator.
But… PR is part of the US and is a wonderful place full of kind people.
Yes, and ones who don’t vote for these losers. That’s what’s got them butthurt. And the fact that they’re a majority Hispanic place where everyone born there is automatically a U.S. citizen. I’m sure that also makes them seethe.
Yes, and ones who don’t vote for these losers. That’s what’s got them butthurt.
Puerto Ricans don’t vote for anybody. They don’t have representation in Congress, and they have zero electoral votes because they aren’t a state.
So, no, they’re just butthurt because of racism, and Puerto Rico can’t do anything about it because they don’t have any representation.
The main reason PR isn’t a state is because Republicans are scared of how brown people would vote… and to a much greater extent, brown people in general.
Well Puerto Ricans are also of mixed opinions on whether they would even want to be a US state.
Everyone is of mixed opinions about everything, if they don’t want to be a state they can be an independent nation with visa and passport rights.
Is that Kill Tony?
Yup thats what he does… roast mfs! I dont understand how everyone on lemmy is losing their mind over 1 joke!
The context is important. Republicans are openly racists, and this is a rally for Donald Trump presidency. This isn’t a badly lit comedy room
People who attend these events know who will be performing. Kill tony constantly brings black/hispanic comics on his show so Im very confused by what you are trying to say. All republicans are not racist.
Did you know you can interact with other races while still being racist?
Do you still believe that racism means that you actively are trying to kill another race?
He is openly bigoted, it’s not an act. Just watch his show. When he is drunk it all comes out, including his self-hating for being gay
Its comedy but it sounds like you dont like that type of comedy. No one is being racist to people who willingly went to a show that kill tony would be on. Nothing I can do if it hurts your fragile feelings.
Comedy isn’t a free pass to be a racist piece of shit.
For those that didn’t know before that Tony Hinchliffe is a racist Republican, now they know and can choose for themselves what they want to do about that. You can go and suck Tony’s dick.
It’s just a joke get over it!
“I am not racist because I have black friends”. This is how you sound.
The presidential nominee for the GOP is openly racist, sexist and a fascist. By choosing DJT as a nominee, you cannot dissociate the rascim from the party. If you are still a member of the GOP and/or vote for Trump, at best, you enable racism.
So yeah, going to the GOP rally shitting on Puerto Ricans, you are most definitely racist.
How I sound to you maybe, but that doesnt matter. Remember all this over a joke… get over your self!
And yet, most racists are Republicans. Weird.
It’s Tony Hinchcliffe at a recent MAGA rally in New York City.
Is that Tony of the show Kill Tony?
Oh god, so stupid
How many jokes about Christians or conservatives did he do? Zero?! Why’s that? Answer those questions.
This isn’t even good racism. This is like, 2000s-era ironic racism. Which was about as funny as Holocaust jokes, and aged about as well as Anne Frank.
Where’s the hateful, KKK, lynchmob racism? Don’t just casually half ass it. Show your real murican colors. Y’all are living like American History X and you give us Wayne Brady on Chapelles Show.
Reminds me of this classic greentext
This reminds me of when RTGame played Cities Skylines using a world map mod and made the island of Great Britain the landfill.
