Lemmy in a nutshell too tbh.
I don’t know what boards you’re on, but wow. Not the experience I’m having on Lemmy. You might wanna check your subscribes.
I’m not having that experience at all as a member of lemm.ee and I am very thankful.
go outside
interact with people
nobody is talking about linux
nobody is talking about the bad thing that amazon did today
nobody is talking about self hosting or privacy
everyone just having normal and relatively pleasant conversation and going on with their day
Are you my …therapist?
(Read this as in the butterfly meme LOL)
Funny you say that lol. I study electrical engineering, and my friends from uni ABSOLUTELY talk about linux, self hosting, and privacy. Still looking for someone to fill out the “bad thing that amazon did today” conversation niche.
My lemmy experience is not like your lemmy experience.
No one is accusing me of raping a cow (I got a milkshake)
No one is blaming me specifically for the state of the environment (I drive a car to get my milkshake)
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Yes leftism is just as bad as incel misogyny, I also live in a world without nuance.
If I have to choose I prefer femcel over incel its more fun
At least they make fire memes
This is why people like this are told to go outside or touch grass.
Frankly all of 4chan should.
But then our supply chain of clinically insane greentexts would fail.
Yeah, we’re way better over here on lemmy. (The lack of racism really does make us better tho)
Uhh counterpoint. i think we need more racism. I dont have a reason yet but ill try to think of one so we can engage in a pointless online yelling match.
Through this sieve would come the ascended madmen. Those who escaped the cave and rejected the reality without, retreating to their chamber of hate and stagnation. The truly unhinged. No more naive, parroted bastardizations of the Socratic method. Only irreparables.
This select choir of lunatics voluntarily ablating their sanity will be decadence enough, I think
I heard a story about a whole world that was perfect because they locked a kid up in a room and threw all the bad stuff in there with the kid. The poor kid suffered all of the world’s miseries so that others could enjoy life. That kid’s name? 4chan.
4chan is 99% deplorable garbage. I won’t even go into /b/. Helllll no. But oddly enough, some of the internet’s best memes come out of there.
It’s the primordial soup of internet content.
Assuming only a place of pure misery could produce those memes
The Mysterious Hacker 4chan
Isn’t the concept of a meme itself a leak from 4chan?
You think you’re funny but you’re just cringe
The original idea of a meme came from Dawkins in the 70’s, and “Internet Meme” from Godwin in the early 90’s, talking about message boards, usenet, listservs, etc.
4chan did not start the concept, no. Lolcats came from 4chan, iirc. But internet memes predate the existence of 4chan.
Well the word “meme” comes from Dawkins, but his usage was not to label the isea we talk about when we talk about memes.
I know for a fact where I’m from memes were something you’d only ever see on 4chan and people on Facebook and any other “normal” social media (or people) had no idea of what the fuck even was a meme.
I rememeber because I was like “this people are degenerates but it’s fashinating the whole layers upon layers of instane meaning that they managed to cram into single pictures, I wonder if people outside this bubble would ever understand those”.
And to be fair memes nowdays are rarely as “obscure” as those old ones.
No, it was Godwin for internet memes.
If you mean image macros, sure. That’s a subset of what a meme is.
Many forget that a meme is simply a concept or idea that grabs hold within a human community and is propagated and promulgated. Patriarchy is a meme. Capitalism is a meme. Doing ‘bunny ears’ behind someone’s head in a photo is a meme (h/t Parker and Stone). Doing cave paintings of animals is a meme. Fashion of an era is a meme. Our entire social structure runs on memes.
4chan is what the internet would look like if everything had the bare minimum of moderation. Actually a very interesting case study about the human psyche, and I’ve had many a interesting conversation on there, especially early internet days.
Is it a shithole? Overall, yes. But the right board at the right time is truly early internet ethos.
I’m often hearing that 4chan is “unmoderated” or has “the bare minimum of moderation”, which just doesn’t line up with reality. Many boards have strict and specific rules about what content is allowed, what is banned, and how said content should be presented. Just listing some rules off the top of my head: you must have a minimum number of pictures to start a thread of /s/. Normal hentai porn goes into /h/, weird fetish stuff goes into /d/. No western art allowed on either. Content that breaks the rules gets removed within hours, sometimes minutes.
If you see something that you find disagreeable on a 4chan board, it’s likely there because it’s allowed to be there. They aren’t struggling with moderation. The fact that it’s still online in the clearnet after so much media attention proves that they have enough jannies to take care of the illegal stuff at least.
Content and formatting rules are just to keep things on topic. When people mention the bare minimum of moderation, that is literally the bare minimum, and I never said they are struggling with it. They just choose to not remove any inflammatory or borderline content because they want to be that place.
Okay, then that means I misunderstood your comment. Seems like we’re on the same page.
If the entire internet was as unmoderated as 4chan, it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is.
But since there are only very few places like that, all the weirdos and nazis congregate there, cause that’s where they don’t get banned for using the n-word.
it would be a lot less extreme than 4chan is
I don’t really think so, every online fora I’ve been a part of starts unmoderated, and it works, for years sometimes. But every single time without fail when a platform reaches a critical mass, moderation becomes necessary.
I think putting a digital mask on shows the true nature of people, and moderation is the only way of keeping conversation* civil on the internet.
moderation becomes necessary
Maybe, if you’re determined to preserve a certain culture on a specific site. But as long as movement between sites is pretty easy (was quite common in the days of forums), then the community could self-regulate reasonably well. Either the weirdos would leave, or the constructive members of the community would leave and the site would get shut down. Either way, the problem solves itself without moderation becoming necessary.
IMO, the only reason we “need” moderation is because we’ve decided that the site itself needs to be preserved. That’s the mindset that needs to change. Sites should come and go and take the trash out with it.
Moderation isn’t necessary if you’re willing to just throw the whole site away when it turns to shit.
Well, yeah. Storing your potatoes in the dark is also not “necessary” if you’re willing to just throw them away when they sprout. But wanting to preserve things we like is a given to most people.
most of them were social outcasts long before 4chan. That’s actually how they got there in the first place.
Everyone will be having pleasant conversations outside, but these guys won’t.
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This sounds scaringly similar to a country in the Middle East heavily supported by the US.
It’s a kind of useful to have websites like reddit and 4chan to accuse of fostering thought bubbles, hate speech, and victimhood.
As if anon would call those conversations normal or pleasant.
Anon learns that outdoors is fake and gay.
I like how ambiguously
This place
can either mean “4chan” or “outside.”
I don’t know half the terms used and I’m pretty sure I never want to.
Terms like “outside”, “people”, “dating”, “pleasent conversations” and “touch with reality”?
Eww i dont want reality touching me. hands off mister!
What, no mention of phrenology? I’ve lost touch with 4chan, too much grass touching for me.
Too bad my classmates are like that, in our cafeteria we have a machine where you press a lever with your glass and it dispenses whatever drink was above
Well the important thing is that we have flavoured milk as one of the options, and my classmates started calling it “box milk”, thus was started by our class autistic guy (not really but his friends call him that, and like he does know every gun, tank, ship and plane that was made since the start of WW1 so there’s a reason), so thank you Pavel
Wut
Basically a better version of the post since I was writing that in the morning while I was half asleep
My classmates are full on degenerates and call the milk that’s in the refill machine in our school’s cafeteria “boy milk”
Yes I know it’s awful, I don’t know if i got down voted because they do that or because half asleep me couldn’t write a legible post
Interacting face-to-face with non-degenerates results in normal chat. Whoda thunk?
Fake, we occasionally mention OnlyFans even when outside
Because online, people only talk about those things.
In the real world, they are doing them. And so much more. But usually when you’re not looking.
what if going outside means walking across a half ass tarmac parking lot and then sitting at a bus stop with homeless people for 30 minutes
The crack head sleeping at the bus stop is probably more sane than half the commenters on 4chan.
Chat up the people at the bus stop. They’re probably nice. Next time, bring some warm tea or something too.
Yup. I used to ride the bus to work, and I’d usually chat with whoever was there. Sometimes they appeared homeless, sometimes they had mental disabilities, and sometimes they were just everyday people. I’m quite introverted, but I made the effort and have had some pleasant conversations.
Once I’m on the bus though, all talking stops, because thems the rules.
They’re people too, aren’t they?
interact with people
Instructions unclear, helicoptered my dick around but there appeared to be no ceiling fan.
And now the park security is approaching with tasers. I guess playgrounds aren’t considered America!
Wtf is a Gonial Angle or a Canthal tilt?
Who the fuck cares honestly other than shut in weirdo’s
I’m going to guess at “Incel excuses for not getting laid.”
Anything but the harsh reality that they could get laid if they behaved better and presented themselves better
And bathed
Yup, the bar is sadly that low sometimes.
Talking with some female friends the bar for men is so incredibly low. Trim your hair, bathe regularly, brush your teeth and be non-creepy and you’re already in the top 50% or so
Oh, and wear clean clothes. That raises the bar a smidge.
You need to touch less grass and spend more time online.
Do I really?
Depends on whether you want to a cool kid.
Things people think about when they haven’t learned to manage obsessive rumination in their own minds and live every day with a kind of stress or misery that few people who are even slightly healthier can even comprehend.
Gonial angle is this:
Canthal tilt is that:
As I was googling I’ve seen articles mentioning some angles statistically more attractive than others, that’s predictable, but then incels take it as another reason why they are genetically predisposed to stay virgins and have no power to change that.
Ah, am woman, can confirm I only date mane with a Gonial Angle over 140 degrees, or under 30
Under 30? So basically if you can’t see anything lower than their forehead, ohhhh. 😏 /S
Under 30 degrees? So, like pugs and French bulldogs?
how do you bring out the protractor on dates?
Oh, us females inherently judge the angle flawlessly on first sight.
Some people take pleasure in being pitied and victimised.
Far too many.
I’ve no doubt that at least half the articles about those phrases will lead you down a path of right wing fuckbaggery.
Closer to 99%. This is modern phrenology for incels.
As a gigachad I can confirm.
The ifunny watermark really tips this over the edge, comedically.
It could only be beaten by a SomethingAwful watermark (do they have one?) on a picture of non-attracrive amgles.
