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      12 hours ago

      What exactly are you on about? Isn’t she the current vice president that has expressed her unwavering support for Israel countless times already? What could possibly change with her?

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        For one, it would be incredibly stupid to go against Israel in this political climate because the US gov loves genocide. She needs to win the election, and she needs the warmongers to support her. If she was going to do anything, it would be after the election if she is president. We won’t know until then, but we can’t say we know now.

        Vice presidents don’t decide shit, she definitely isn’t going to cause infighting with Biden.

        Vote her in office and protest/halt the economy until she gives in. Much better chance doing that with her than any other candidate. Americans are quick to bitch about israel, but they love their military budget, their “thank you for your service” and the monthly advanced weapons reveals. Get war out of americans you might see it leave the politicians. Start by attacking the outrageous military budget if you want to help Palestinians.

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          Why do you think you can tell me who to vote for?

          Why would it be incredibly stupid to go against Israel in this political climate? She is the vice president, she with Biden take the decisions, they are the top of the hierarchy. If they out of all people don’t have a will/say, what’s the point of voting?

          If she needs the warmongers to support her to win the election, then she needs to maintain their support during her term cause they fund the democratic party. She needs their support all the time and would never harm their interests. This next part is really important I really need to emphasize how ridiculous it is:

          If she doesn’t make a couple concessions now in her campaign, that politicians have to make promises and grand statements, then when the important time to take actual decisions comes and the “warmongers” are pressuring her and threaten her possibly, what makes you think she will do anything about it???

          How will she do anything if she has admitted that she will always support Israel? What more there is to know?? This is beyond outrageous and ridiculous, next level gaslighting, I can’t even describe how appalling these arguments are.

          Vice presidents don’t decide shit? Who says that? Does Biden seem like someone taking decisions? He can barely read the speeches they hand him. She could have expressed her disagreement in literally any way, pressure not to send money, weapons, protection to Israel, but she didn’t, cause that’s her deal, she is with Zionists 100%.

          The last part doesn’t make sense to me, it’s more incoherent rambling and mental gymnastics about why I should vote those who commit genocide in Palestine and are funded by the military industrial complex.

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          it would be incredibly stupid to go against Israel in this political climate because the US gov loves genocide. She needs to win the election, and she needs the warmongers to support her. If she was going to do anything, it would be after the election if she is president

          And as soon as she wins her team starts thinking about her second term, so this still applies, but if we all help her get re-elected four years from now then maybe we can hope for a positive turn for real.

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            If productivity is hit during her presidency she can bargain to concede some stuff to get them their sweet profits going again, and other such political tradeoffs that come from strikes/protests.

            While she is VP she can’t do shit. Rules for rulers. They only think of re-election because that’s where americans protest every 4 years, instead of protesting their elected officials while they are in office.

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      Harris, as in of the Biden-Harris administration, is complicit and toes the exact same line.

      Don’t support genocide candidates.

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        Grown-ups now you can choose heavy genocide Trump or kind of genocide Harris. Grown-ups know you have to pick one.