• Tenthrow@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    There is nothing unhealthy about peanut butter (when I say that I mean ground peanuts, not the brands with an insane number of additives), but almost anything in extreme quantities can be toxic. Even water.

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        drinking six liters in three hours has caused the death of a human.

        That sounds like a very small amount in three hours.

        I had a situation when I was stuck working in a very hot engine room. I went through a gallon in an hour and got Ill afterwards. I still don’t know if it was the heat, water or a combination.

        Either way, I did learn that if I get in a situation where I’m so hot that the sweat is running, the answer is to cool off, not just slam water.

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      The human body is meant for variety. It’s wild that as much as we’ve learned about the absolutely insane importance of the gut microbiome it still comes down to “eat your vegetables”.

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    I used to eat up to a pound a day, and now I’m wondering if I did myself permanent damage. Certainly half a pound a day, minimum, for a year. M

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        Strength training plus an intensely physical job, 200g of peanut butter was an extra 1200kcal and went down very easily at the end of the day. Sometimes I’d be so tired I’d end up eating the rest of the jar as well. I must have eaten my girlfriend’s weight in peanut butter over the course of a year. I’m so tired all the time nowadays I don’t really know how it was possible. Some days would need 7000kal to hit maintenance.

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      3 months ago

      You are good, oxalates eventually gets eliminated over time. And even if it made some damage, liver can heal itself fast. Same for kidney stone, if you have normal nutrition, they dissolve over time.

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    They deserve credit for warning everyone about a situation people might not have realized was dangerous. Damn.

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      Something doesn’t add up to me. That is not a ridiculous amount of peanut butter for one week. We would hear about this more than some random reddit post if it was real.

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        I had something similar happen to me, but instead of pounds of peanut butter i was substituting lunch for trail mix too often. One day I was passing white flakes that hurt like hell and it would come in waves if I tried eating any sort of nuts after. It’s not peanut allergies, it takes a few days or so to feel these sharp cramps then I will be doubled over the next day. It looks like my bladder had dandruff.

        I read it had to do with nut oils, and citrus supposedly counteracts it, so I eat oranges like mad if I ever feel it coming back and so far I haven’t dealt with it again since. I’m really not the type to go over my diet or look into health things like this, but holy hell it hurt and that seems to be the why and also the how to help.

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    3 months ago

    Only the peanut butter or also the peanuts themselves? Because I eat an absurd amount of them to pass time

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    A pound or two a week sounds kind of moderate? I mean it’s a lot, but if you like peanut butter? I don’t eat nearly that much of it on average, but when I buy a 1 pound jar I usually finish it off in much less than a week. It’s just an occasional thing for me though.

    Are those oxalates only if the PB is getting spoiled or anything like that?

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    The word “liver” doesn’t appear in the Wikipedia article.

    wp:Peanut

    As for oxalates:

    wp:Oxalate:

    Several plant foods such as the root and/or leaves of spinach, rhubarb, and buckwheat are high in oxalic acid and can contribute to the formation of kidney stones in some individuals. Other oxalate-rich plants include fat hen (“lamb’s quarters”), sorrel, and several Oxalis species (also sometimes called sorrels). The root and/or leaves of rhubarb and buckwheat are high in oxalic acid.[14] Other edible plants with significant concentrations of oxalate include, in decreasing order, star fruit (carambola), black pepper, parsley, poppy seed, amaranth, chard, beets, cocoa, chocolate, most nuts, most berries, fishtail palms, New Zealand spinach (Tetragonia tetragonioides), and beans.[citation needed] Leaves of the tea plant (Camellia sinensis) contain among the greatest measured concentrations of oxalic acid relative to other plants. However, the drink derived by infusion in hot water typically contains only low to moderate amounts of oxalic acid due to the small mass of leaves used for brewing.[citation needed]

    but no mention of peanuts in the main or talk page.

    The doctor might be wrong.

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    3 months ago

    He didn’t say if he ate it with jam or chocolate sprinkles. So not sure if he’s American or Dutch.

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    3 months ago

    As someone who has always had a problem with calcium oxalate stones, I did not know peanut butter is so loaded with oxalates, so this is good information to have.

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      It’ll sound counter intuitive, but one way to avoid problems with oxalates is to consume calcium rich foods with oxalate high foods. For example, a glass of milk (soy milk counts) with a PB&J.

      The reason this works is the calcium binds with the oxalate in your stomach and not your liver/kidneys.

      For this to work, you have to consume both at the same time.

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      Something that’s always stuck with me (re:kidney stones) is that consistently sleeping on the same side seems to increase the likelihood of developing them.

      In the 93 patients [of 110] who consistently slept to one side, the side in which renal stones were found was identical to the dependent sleep side in 76%. source

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      “A pound or two each week”

      Thats your problem right there. The next step up from peanut butter, in terms of calories (particularly fats) per kg is actual butter or lard. Its about 50% fat.

      I imagine the rest is second hand regurgitation of info they dont really understand.

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      As a gym rat and bicyclist i was having health issues. No drugs or alcohol. Lots of supplements.

      I went oxalate free on a zero carb diet for several years and it fixed my auto immune disorder. I lost 30 pounds of muscle in the process because of a loss in appetite. I slowly readded foods into my diet. Turned out that I couldn’t handle salicylates in large amounts. It’s in most plants as well. 3% of the population shares my intolerance. We can’t eat spices or herbs.

      All humans have individual variances in our ability to process plant toxins. There’s a reason why some people are more prone to kidney stones than others. It doesn’t mean someone is unhealthy.