Zen Browser
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Just stumbled upon this project, seems rather new as my DNS blocked its domain by default for being too new hehe… Anyone had a chance to try it yet? Its got some hefty promises, like having equally strong privacy features as Librewolf. I’ll be giving it ago at least, almost sounds a bit too good to be true…

  • neonred@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    So, how about the Cachy Browser from CachyOS? (aur)

    This repository benefits from the knowledge and research provided by arkenfox, their documentation was vital to this revamp, so special thanks to their project. We do not use arkenfox’s user.js but we try to keep up with it, and we also consider it a great resource for users who want to find their own setup.

    We encourage users to find their own setup and to use our default configuration as something to build on top of. This is now easier thanks to the overrides, just place your own preferences in the proper location: -> ~/.cachy/cachy.overrides.cfg

    Differences from LibreWolf:

    • Enhanced security & privacy.
    • Gentoo patches. Taken from Gentoo’s Firefox.
    • uBlock Origin added.
    • Moonlight theme added.
    • Preset for “Profile Sync Daemon” and Firejail/Firejail(hardened) available.
    • Custom Rules for uBlock Origin.
    • Custom branding.

    Notes and thanks

    Some of the older prefs in this project are taken from pyllyukko and many more were investigated on bugzilla.

    Thanks to the whole LibreWolf community.

      • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        This OS is good and I’ve used it for 6months but I want to switch because it packed all of these theming inside and you cannot really remove it

          • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago

            Yeah, and it’s sad because I didn’t find a distro that is really welled tweaked without theming (speaking of CachyOS and Garuda mainly), they are great as their using all the best optimizations in terms of performance but they add this theming…

              • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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                2 months ago

                You can unselected testing etc… But cannot with all of the stuff like the fish shell, and so on. So you need to manually remove all this, and this is not good at all

                • aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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                  2 months ago

                  For some reason I recall being able to choose that during install. I’ll fuck around with the installer later to check. But I agree I use don’t use fish either and had to figure out how to swap over to zsh. It was pretty painless though.

            • Sunny' 🌻@slrpnk.netOP
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              2 months ago

              Yeah, so far my favourite distro for this is Bazzite, still allowed a lot of customization and is well optimised for gaming.

              • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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                2 months ago

                It’s a good distro, but seems to be too gaming focused, new techs for gaming that are not really useful

                • quarterlife@lemmy.sdf.org
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                  2 months ago

                  For that, check out Bluefin or Aurora. They’re all under the same umbrella as Bazzite, but with a user/developer focus instead of a gaming focus.

          • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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            2 months ago

            That’s cool but the CachyOS repo is not the most interesting thing, the pre-optimized desktop is really nice

  • robigan@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Actually quite stoked about this as it boasts those librewolf privacy features while having a UI similar to Arc. Can’t wait for it to exit Alpha

  • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Floorp is literally running with tons of optimizations and is shifting to the standard FF release instead of long term support build in their next major release. The optimizations though are like front and center, and it has TONS of privacy toggles and features.

    That comparison is… Self serving let’s say.

  • BoxEbony@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    nobody uses iceweasel? For those who don’t know, it is the version of firefox cleaned up by non ‘libre’ code mainly from debian and then taken over by parabola linux. For me it is the best together with mullvad.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
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      2 months ago

      I was under the impression IceWeasel changed to IceCat.

      And, honestly, from all I could remember, the default protections are so strong a good half of sites doesn’t even work properly lol

      Typical GNU maximalism.

      (But yeah - it really blocks all the bad stuff and doesn’t do anything you don’t ask it to do, not even call for updates by default)

      • BoxEbony@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        icecat is based on the LTS version, iceweasel the rolling-release. I have been using iceweasel for almost a year and all the sites I have used work

        • Allero@lemmy.today
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          2 months ago

          I see - thanks for clarification!

          Got confused because beforehand there was GNU IceWeasel (now GNU IceCat), which is now separate from IceWeasel. Quite a shitshow.

    • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Until something comes out saying otherwise, Mullvad browser seems to be the best privacy wise.

      I believe Zen is better than default Firefox out of the box, but you can get the same effect in regular Firefox by toggling some options.

      I liked Zen for the UI changes. It’s nice having the tabs on the side and a customizable sidebar

  • breadsmasher@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Optimised for peak performance? Are there benchmarks to back this up?

    Edit - their docs have benchmarks. They do not appear to have comparative benchmarks

    edit - lol amazing

    • Mubelotix@jlai.lu
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      2 months ago

      I believe it’s just a build with all modern cpu features enabled. At the cost of undefined behavior when ran on older computers

    • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Try Floorp.

      Also, maybe don’t compare clean chrome install to FF with a half dozen extensions installed. Extensions like Greasemonkey run literally any script you tell them to. An errant line of code and there goes your memory.

      Try again, apples to apples dude.

        • ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          “Moving the goal posts” I fail to see how I’m changing the conditions. I’m explaining a clear and obvious issue in that image which is why it’s not a good comparison.

          Okay, extensions require container processes, for each one. Each new extension add to the RAM usage. For both Firefox and Chrome.

          So already the comparison is flawed because Firefox now requires more base memory to load those extensions out the gate.

          But now, Firefox is clearly showing Tampermonkey in the toolbar, a userscript extension. Let’s just say I run a script that fetches competing price info from temu.com when you browse a site like amazon. Not uncommon.

          Let’s say I set that to loop, so it’ll work on infinite scroll pages too.

          Okay, now if you leave your browser alone for an hour and it’s refreshing these scripts, guess what happens to the memory?

          Every test of current builds of FF vs Chrome has found extremely negligible performance differences when both are stock installs.

      • Frozyre@kbin.melroy.org
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        2 months ago

        I did but all you fucking morons are having your knee jerk reactions. It’s what I expected from dumb fucking fanboys with no lives who swear their allegiance to Firefox. Fuck you. lol

        • Allero@lemmy.today
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          2 months ago

          A bit more politeness goes a very long way.

          Try being more civil, this will earn you way more support, especially since you want to change people’s minds.

        • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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          2 months ago

          @Frozyre please keep it a bit friendly. I understand you are mad, but there’s no point in treating other people like this.

          • Frozyre@kbin.melroy.org
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            2 months ago

            Tell the assholes to keep it friendly themselves. I’m talking the fanboys. They who can’t handle differing opinions have no place in open discussion on any platform. Period.

            • melroy@kbin.melroy.org
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              2 months ago

              You actually started calling them to go to hell.

              Open discussions are of course fine, but your tone isn’t. Since we aren’t talking about handling different opinions now, you are just insulting people. So feel free to express any feedback you might have, but there is no need for insulting and swearing.

  • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Their privacy is better than regular Firefox due to disabling telemetry etc, but librewolf does way more to protect against fingerprinting. The browser itself is quite good, although it shows that it’s in early development. Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting

    • Nobilmantis@feddit.it
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      2 months ago

      Also I disabled send a do not track signal as it is used for fingerprinting

      Doesn’t this only make sense if it is off by default on that browser? I assume if it is on by default, most people will just keep it on, thus making users of that browser that turn it off stand out more. No?

      • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Firefox doesn’t enable it by default, so if you turn it of any chance of being perceived as just another Firefox user is gone. It may not be a measurable difference but as basically no site respects it and those that do aren’t a big problem in the first place it doesn’t matter all that much

  • Otter@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I like it so far. The weakness seems to be the size of the dev team and if the project has a future. Hopefully they are planning accordingly.

    I went through a handful of threads and it seems mostly positive so far. One choice I wasn’t sure about was that they’re considering having a built in adblocker (based on something that’s not ublock origin). I would prefer if the browser just shipped with ublock origin instead.

    https://www.privacyguides.org/en/browser-extensions/

    As far as privacy focused browsers go, Mull Mullvad Browser seems to be the best still. I was exploring Zen for my day to day browser.

  • soyboy77@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    I love options but does anybody else wish devs would put their heads together and focus on improving ONE app rather than launch a millon similar forks?