Jack Black announced on Instagram that he’s cancelled the rest of the Tenacious D world tour and placed future projects on hiatus.
This happened after his bandmate Kyle Gass sparked controversy by commenting on the recent Donald Trump assassination attempt.
At their recent Sydney show, Kyle Gass was given a birthday cake and asked to make a wish for his 64th birthday, to which he said “Don’t miss Trump next time.”
In his later statement, Black said he was “blindsided” by his bandmate’s comment and condemned any calls for political violence.
Come the fuck on Jack, you’re better than this.
I’m like 99% sure they recieved threats after what Kyle said, so I don’t blame Jack.
Based Kyle gass vs hollywood-pilled jack black
Nothing and no one can harm the old Rage Kage again…
Its not Jack, it’s the bullshit cancel culture.
Glad we’re finally acknowledging that shit is real
Cancel culture is real.
Its what the right does every time they get their panties in a twist.
Hell, a lot of Project 2025 is nothing but cancel culture shit.
It used to just be called blacklisting pfc
Is woke PC killing standup comedy?
I empathize with his statement, but it was a bad idea to express it publicly like that.
From a purely practical perspective, it immediately balloons the security costs of the tour through the end of the year. Black was smart to cancel the tour and probably saved a few dozen lives in the process, giving how trigger happy Trump’s base has proven itself to be.
Food for thought, this is what a win for terrorists looks like. When you can’t make a joke for fear of violence, that’s the goal of the violence.
Really fuckin sucks :/
Guess someone ought to do something about these terrorists - isn’t that what the War on Terror is about?
(Sarcasm)
Maybe. It seems like a bit of an overreaction to me, and I really don’t like the idea that we can’t say mean things about their god emperor because they’ll get mad and be violent. Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.
I really don’t like the idea that we can’t say mean things about their god emperor because they’ll get mad and be violent
I don’t like it either. But that’s stocastic terrorism for you. It’s anti-populist and anti-liberty by design.
Only solution is to police the fascists until they’re more scared of you than you are of them. And that doesn’t work if the cops are on the fascists’ side.
Has Muslim and Mohammed vibes.
No shortage of Christian terrorism. Just ask any abortion clinic nurse.
No shortage of Christian terrorism. Just ask any abortion clinic nurse.
The clinic that did the selective termination that saved my twins’ lives had to be so cloak and dagger about their stuff that we literally had no idea we were showing up to the termination until they’re wheeling my wife back to surgery. It’s one of the only clinics in the state that even does the procedure we needed to my knowledge. That’s how many bomb threats, arson and assassination attempts they deal with.
Serious question, if you don’t mind. How did a selective termination save twins’ lives? Was your wife originally carrying triplets or quadruplets in a high-risk pregnancy? I’m entirely pro-choice, the wording is just a little odd and I’m having a hard time parsing the meaning.
Ah but it is the liberals who are fostering an environment of violance
Advocating shooting someone is just “mean things” now?
I understand the sentiment, but it doesn’t all fall under the same umbrella. Saying he has small hands and advocating that someone shoot him dead are not the same thing.
I understand your sentiment as well, but it gets old seeing so much hand-wringing about advocating violence against a fascist who advocates violence while giving his violent followers a pass. “Oh, that’s just how they are! We have to coddle them or they’ll kill people! But you’re terrible!”
Yeah, Trump was mid-speech “here’s how we’re going to deport every single just-minding-their-own-business brown family from our country” when he got shot, too.
Not that that was why he got shot, but it does make all the handwringing funnier.
Apparently turning his head to check his immigration notes saved his life. This is how we know there is no god.
I get that its a heavily inappropriate thing to say right now, but at the end of the day it’s an edgy joke, and while ending the tour because of security concerns (and pr concerns) makes sense, cutting all professional ties with the guy seems a bit extreme, especially since he’s already apologized
Having an effigy of a beheaded Trump is more of an edgy joke (Kathy Griffin in 2017). Wishing an assignation attempt that actually occurred to have been successful is a little different.
I’m talking about Kyle Gass here, was it him or Kathy Griffin that did the effigy? That’s a lot more than making a joke about a possible president thats more than likely going to fuck up the entire world hadnt dodged a bullet, but again, if it wasnt, and were just talking about a joke, Once again its not inappropriate enough to end an entire lifetime relationship over, especially after he apologized and owned up to it being inappropriate
Did he actually end a relationship? Or just cancel the tour? I would argue that if he would have died and actually become a martyr it would be much worse. I also don’t think of he does actually win the whole world is going to be f’d up. Thats mostly just rhetoric. Will he suck? Yup. Will he be there next putin that has unlimited terms? No chance.
Grow a pair Jack!
Damn. It’s gotta be stressful as a public figure toeing the line between basic decency and a desire to not get investigated by the S(ecret) S(ervice). Can’t say I blame him for wanting to distance himself from that type of commentary
Read: Man in his 50s found excuse to not do a tiresome thing
It sounds like you don’t know who Jack Black is
I saw his show last year, and the energy he puts into them is incredible. Dude has more energy than most people half his age.
This is why I blocked lemmy.ml, along with hexbear.net and lemmygrad.ml - too bad those user blocks are so ineffective and still show every comment from every user from there.
Blocking the instance is not blocking the users of that instance. Confusing, but it’s separate functionality. Instance blocking blocks all posts from the instance showing up in your feeds. Doesn’t block comments or users, you still have to do that individually.
Probably should be renamed as an option, because logically you would think it would block everything from that instance, not just posts/communities.
Right, you basically cannot block all comments from those instances. Though it does prevent notifications if they reply to you. The only way to avoid wasting your time with them is to block each and every single person that comes along, including every single new one. Which also does nothing to stop them from downvoting you. In short, unless an entire instance defederates from them and you join it - which none of the well-known instances do, and it is not entirely so trivial to spin up your own - there is nothing that an individual user can do about the situation, atm.
And sometimes I even have enjoyable conversations with people on those instances - still, those are in the extreme minority (fewer than 1/1000) and I would choose to sacrifice that to have the option to walk away entirely, if I could. Especially since I could always have an alt account elsewhere to get the best of both worlds. As they also do in turn (several have openly admitted this), to get around the instance defederations.
The answer is drugs
Then let’s go with the alternative: Man overreacts and acts self righteous over a joke. Cancels other people’s plans.
Here’s what really happened: A man with an actual moral compass decides work life balance and his relationship with his long time friend and business partner is more important than money, and has decided to take the time to figure things out between them.
If your actual moral compass tells you the real problem is not coddling fascists when they get what’s due to them, it’s pointing in the wrong direction.
Jack black is a better human than me, I won’t argue that point.
I’d have a lot of energy too if i’d make millions of dollars to sing mediocre songs.
Jack is a Coward. I stand with Kyle. Remember, whenever someone calls for violence, that the head of project 25 said "We are in the midst of a second American revolution., which will remain bloodless, should the left choose it to be."
Don’t think for a second Trump is against it.
Don’t you see? He’s the man! Let me hear you applaud! He is more than a man, he’s a shiny golden god! …
He. Is going. To kick your fucking ass! And! You know, his name is Kyle Gass! Rocking and fucking rolling and fucking rocking and fucking rolling and fucking (Jack Black scatting noises)
No matter our politics, hopefully we can all agree with JB about not wanting to get shot by reactionary Christofascist radicals. I assume Black and Gass’s politics are pretty well aligned with each other, and Gass didn’t say anything a lot of people aren’t also feeling. But you can’t say that shit on stage in front of thousands of amped up fans. --not because it’s wrong to say or because it’s not politically correct or even because it’s controversial. You can’t say that shit because some of the people in the audience are unhinged and have already been radicalized by the Right.
Take a stand for the First Amendment, and take a stand against censorship, sure–but while you’re standing, be prepared to duck.
I don’t blame any public figure for not wanting to expose themselves to an outsized risk of violence. That risk is largely Trump’s fault, but notice how I’m blaming him from somewhere other than an elevated, well lit platform in front of a room full of strangers on drugs.
“don’t stand up for your rights, it might get you hurt” is a very weird take tbh
“don’t invoke violence in an emotionally charged environment with thousands of people, especially when it puts your friends and coworkers in the crossfire.”
When your masters use violence to oppress you, the only justified action is violence against them in a pursuit of freedom.
“Don’t take a stand against fascism, because a fascist might get angry” 🙄
And I guess if you’re part of a group already being targeted by angry fascists, it’d be something like “why didn’t you warn us about fascism sooner?”…
I think standing up to fascism is different from putting yourself on a stage in front of potential cult members looking for retaliation. The guy is a comedian/actor/musician, he’s not looking to take a bullet from some unhinged wacko to somehow prove … fascism bad?
How many here talking shit are planning to do a soapbox tour of the US calling for Trump’s death? Just putting yourself out in front of a crowd of potentially unhinged folks, unarmed, to try and prove some kind of point.
I chose to believe he is being honest about why he cancelled the tour, and it wasn’t because “I agree with my buddy, and we’re going to stay out of the limelight for a short minute to stay safe”, but because “my buddy wants a fascist dead, and I can’t be seen to agree”.
I also find it fucking hilarious that people seriously think anyone is going to target this guy (or that he doesn’t already have/ can’t afford security), when there are significantly bigger targets out ther.
Nutjobs have shot of grocery stores and movie theaters that had no real “targets” other than people to shoot. Now mark yourself as “the enemy” of a cult by just using your first amendment right, and one could follow to a logical conclusion that maybe you would be putting your putting yourself and your whole road crew at risk.
You also have to stop thinking about these people as logical. Nothing they do has logic involved. They are members of a cult, logic was checked at the door long ago. As for being a target, these guys are famous, and people talk shit and threaten stars for far less then wishing death upon the cult leader.
its one thing to willingly make yourself a target, but another to put your friends in the crossfire without their consent. Not just Jack but their crew, fans, venue staff, etc
I chose to believe he is being honest about why he cancelled the tour, and it wasn’t because “I agree with my buddy, and we’re going to stay out of the limelight for a short minute to stay safe”, but because “my buddy wants a fascist dead, and I can’t be seen to agree”.
I also find it fucking hilarious that people seriously think anyone is going to target this guy (or that he doesn’t already have/ can’t afford security), when there are significantly bigger targets out ther.
well firstly, you are the one who just said:
“Don’t take a stand against fascism, because a fascist might get angry” 🙄
that is what I was responding to.
but whatever, if I respond to your most recent comment you are copying and pasting everywhere, you’re being a bit naive if you think safety didn’t factor into the decision at all, or that any of these people couldn’t be targeted. There are whackos out there who could be targeting anyone for any reason and being on stage is a vulnerable place to be (see dimebag darrel, for example). And if something like that happens, it’s not just the target in danger, but everyone in the vicinity including the entire venue. People are likely to get trampled while fleeing, see just about any active shooter situation with hundreds or thousands of people crammed together.
I think it’s more like “don’t publicly stand for political violence towards fascists because their base is unhinged and you bring the violence on yourself”. Also, the violence has given the fascists power. Right now, the dems defense has to be damage control. I know many people wish Trump had been taken out (especially by another republican) but it didn’t happen, most likely won’t now, and dems need to put on a “we don’t condone violence” face so they can maybe try to win.
I think it’s more like “don’t publicly stand for political violence towards fascists because their base is unhinged and you bring the violence on yourself”.
So as long as they’re bringing violence to everyone but you, it’s all good then… 🙄
Also, the violence has given the fascists power.
News flash - they had it long before this joke happened
Right now, the dems defense has to be damage control. I know many people wish Trump had been taken out (especially by another republican) but it didn’t happen, most likely won’t now, and dems need to put on a “we don’t condone violence” face so they can maybe try to win.
Laugh my mother fucking ass off.
The fact that you, anyone, still put faith in the democrats to stand up, never mind defeat, fascism, especially after the pathetic display of the last few days where they’ve all literally grovelled to the fascist in chief, is as depressing as it is astounding. And it doesn’t end well.
Okay, then what’s the answer? Because I’m afraid, unless we get some nation-wide support, no one is going to vote 3rd party (and there are no truly leftist candidates anyway). Even if we were to get the support, there’s no guarantee that we have enough or that those who said they would vote 3rd party really will. And even then, we won’t get all the dems on board anyway, which will split the vote. You’re against fascism, but the unfortunate thing is that the dems are the only shot unless you’ve got a revolution or a really game-changing candidate up your sleeve. The problem is, it’s crunch time and we have few options. I’m mad about it too and I agree with you on most points, but what else can we really do?
Nah, Xhieron has a point. You don’t want to piss off a radicalized group of gun-toting rednecks. All it takes is one extremist right-wing nutjob and a loaded firearm to end your life.
I mean a 20 year old incel came within inches of killing Trump at a rally, and unlike Donald, Tenacious D and their crew do not have the luxury of secret service protection.
I chose to believe he is being honest about why he cancelled the tour, and it wasn’t because “I agree with my buddy, and we’re going to stay out of the limelight for a short minute to stay safe”, but because “my buddy wants a fascist dead, and I can’t be seen to agree”.
I also find it fucking hilarious that people seriously think anyone is going to target this guy (or that he doesn’t already have/ can’t afford security), when there are significantly bigger targets out ther.
Y’all burying the lead here: Kyle blew on a birthday cake and made a wish but he spoke it out loud! Now it’ll never come true. :(
Damnit, Kyle - you had one job!
*lede
Sorry
TIL, huh.
Lede feels like it only exists for that expression, unless you’re in journalism. The biggest irony is it’s actually a 1950s alteration of lead, but the expression came out of journalism so here we are.
I really hope this is just PR shit and Jack Black isnt ending a friendship with a longterm friend over an edgy joke, cause like man, I know he’s a celebrity, but I had a lot of respect for him up until this point
If I was about to go on tour with my best friend and he said something stupid that put us in danger from real life lunatics with guns, I’d fucking cancel the tour too because I cared about us both and our relationship. Besides, if you can’t tell your friends they’re wrong when they’re wrong, they’re not really your friend. This isn’t necessarily the act of betrayal you’re making it out to be.
I’m betting that making this statement publicly makes it easier to break the tour contracts, rather than backing out of the tour without saying why.
And doesn’t this go both ways? One of my favorite sayings is: a friend is someone who when you’ve made a fool of yourself, doesn’t think you’ve done a permanent job of it. Perhaps Jack Black could forgive his best friend and move along. Perhaps make a joint statement at the next event.
Absolutely but a friend is also the person who pulls you aside and doesn’t let you go on stage before the heat dies down.
That part I understand, its the “put future projects on haitus” I’m commenting about. Although I guess I gave more detail in my other comment than I did this one so fair play
Just the other day, I looked at him with his shaggy ass beard, half done up bright shirt and too large shorts singing whatever the fuck and thought to myself:
“I have mad respect for jack black, That is a man that truly does not give a fuck. I should try and be more like him”
And then this reaction comes out and all that is gone and I’m reminded that I’m a terrible judge of character.
Why? Because he’s not ok with his band mate saying on stage someone should be murdered?
I think its more because instead of just saying “hey that’s not cool” he publicly shat on his friend and threw him under the bus, disbanded the band, cancelled the concert.
He obviously knows Kyle pretty well, so this sentiment can’t be a surprise to him. So therefore he has no integrity by supporting his friend behind closed doors and being two faced when his sentiments are aired in public.
Part of not giving a fuck is having the integrity to be who you truly are, and from his reaction I can see is just an act.
How much money did he lose cancelling the tour though?
Giving up that kind of money takes integrity.
It goes both ways though. Kyle should also know his friend wouldn’t be happy about potentially losing his career over calls to murder a person for political reasons.
Disclaimer: I fucking hate Trump and wish he was killed years ago so I’m not saying I disagree with what Kyle said, I’m just disagreeing with when he chose to express it because he was there representing tenacious D which extends to jack as well. I’ll also add that at this point I worry that killing Trump now would only replace him with someone actually competent to drive the fascism train over the tracks that are already firmly in place, but that’s a different discussion.
Because the man does, in fact, give a fuck when it counts.
The trick is to choose what to not give a fuck about.
Jack black doesn’t give a fuck about others opinions of his appearance.
He does give a fuck about death threats.
Seems pretty sensible and reasonable to me.
Looks like Kyle doesn’t give a fuck more.
Jack did a fundraiser for Biden. I suspect he’s just toeing the Dem line on this one. Doesn’t really want to see “Democrat fundraiser calls for death of Trump” splashed across the news.
I’m more going to chalk it up to not wanting to stand on a stage within rifle range when maga lunatics are on the prowl.
Hey Jack, I love you. But eat a fucking dick, coward.
Honestly this just makes me sad.
I thought better of JB. This is a far cry from a call for political violence.
This is like saying “come on, guys, Hitler is a person too and we shouldn’t be wishing bad things on them” in the 1930s.
I can’t imagine being so spineless I’d throw my friend under the bus over a comment that, honestly as far as I’m concerned doesn’t go far enough.
money > convictions
spineless response by him in my opinion.
He swims in money. And their financial success would continue regardless.
maybe, maybe not. might get canceled.
money > convictions
It would make him money to continue the tour, not to cancel it
nah, he’s virtue signalling
It doesn’t seem you understand what virtue signaling means
help me out then buddy, because what he’s doing is “expressing a moral viewpoint to communicate good character”, which is the EXACT DEFINITION.
Virtue signaling is telling people you’re a great guy. When you demonstrate it with actions it’s just called being virtuous.
jesus christ, do i have to do everything for you? he’a acting like a great guy and saying “political violence is bayud” but we’ve put up with trumps shit for years and he obviously doesn’t feel that way, clearly his bandmate doesn’t and isn’t afraid to say it, but jack’s playing PC to appease everyone and look holier than thou.
Most of the western world fought back against the Nazis in WWII for the very reason that fascism is deeply hostile to a healthy democracy and a free society.
Kyle was right: we didn’t teach our soldiers to miss back then, so there is no excuse to miss now.
Was a right wing idiot, listening to right wing hate and violence, who took a shot at a right wing idol.
Theres nothing “ours” or “soldier” about it.
#TeamKyle
Jack Black is trying to use his massive A-list star power to get Biden elected, something that will actually help people. Kyle Gass made an offhanded joke that could jeopardize that. So Jack Black needs to distance himself, and I’ll bet you money Kyle Gass agrees with him.
It’s an impossible situation to be in, but I kind of agree with Jack Black’s move on this. He can do more good as a Hollywood A-lister for Biden than he can as an “edgy” rock star with a guy nobody’s ever heard of.
Biden’s demented. Neither choice makes any sense.
Shut up.
He could be a corpse and still would be a far better choice than Trump.
Still voting Biden.
Russian troll are just a fucking idiot?
Porque no los dos? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Man, americans really do need famous guys to tell them what to think.
We are in a war for our future right now and we can take all the help we can get.
Recently had to take a trip to the USA for work and it felt surreal… all the posters of whatever celebrity with captions like “XYZ wants you to stop littering” or “Such-and-Such only use Colgate”. It felt like a brain washing operation for toddlers (and this was at the airport)
Yeah. It’s fucking sad. Our education system gutted arts and critical thinking. We are doomed. Hope we don’t hurt you guys on our way down.
That’s weird, I don’t notice that too much.
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Meanwhile, George Clooney only does nescafe commercials in foreign languages.
The disrespect to the Gass man is ridiculous. Honestly Tenacious D comes from the same era of ridiculousness that gave rise to Borat, and I don’t see why Kyle shouldn’t be given the same leeway to say wild ass shit that Cohen did.
Yeah… pointing to the Zionist who just got canceled For being sexually inappropriate on set and to defend himself released a video of himself being sexually inappropriate on set isn’t the defense you think it is. Even his wife left him.
And no offense to the gas man. I’m a 35-year-old white guy. I’ve been in love with the gas man for two decades now. But be honest with yourself, Most people don’t know about Tenacious D. The second biggest category think of Tenacious D as Jack Black’s band with that guy. That doesn’t really compete with Bowser from Mario levels of fame.
That doesn’t really compete with Bowser from Mario levels of fame.
I understand what you’re saying but man, I hate seeing people water themselves down for fame.
One more reason to not be excited for the upcoming Minecraft and Borderlands movie.Man I’m actually kinda sad I somehow missed Cohen getting super canceled. I’ll have to go look for it.
Me too. This is a surprise to me but I don’t pay much attention to E news or whatever we wanna call it
This is a good take, but I really fucking hate the constant “we go high” shit.
Well, seeing as going low does nothing but exacerbate this whole “us vs. them” mentality we have right now, which is how we’re stuck in this situation in the first place… maybe get the fuck over it?
Biden’s speech at the NAACP was pretty good, and his calls to revamp the Supreme Court and make a new amendment were pretty cool
I really fucking hate the constant “we go high” shit.
The guy that took a shot at Trump was a Republican. And the guy who would have inevitably driven a car-sized fertilizer bomb into a crowd of Tenacious D fans would also be a Republican.
This isn’t “going high”, its self-preservation. We live in a fascist country swarming with fascist cops and fascist vigilantes, and we need to fucking act like it. Every concert going forward would have had insane security costs because of this one off-handed remark.
Shit is so dark right now. The rational, empathic person in me is still very much in control, and agrees with you. But the geopolitical realist in me is quietly whispering “Kyle has chosen the path of martyrdom.”
The thing is, our opposition is not rational or empathetic.
we’re so fucking high right now we can’t see the people below being eaten alive and actual Nazi flags being flown to scare people from voting. but hey, it’s cooler up here.
