The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

  • rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Hola señores, necesito más créditos de la pornografía porque sus madres tienen tetas grandes.

  • FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    I don’t think porn is a good thing, but the fact that even if you’re an adult with a pass you are limited is pretty bizarre. this is on top of the fact that you are already giving up your privacy to view it.

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      7 months ago

      (it doesn’t tie your identity to the content you’re viewing, only the use of your credits)

      The website can’t know this, but the government can easily (and I bet will) link an identity to a token, and know where and when it is used. It can also request metadata on usage of a token, which websites will no doubt want to store.

      That the government can track this sort of thing is bad enough, but I’m especially concerned that it or both parties will leak/share/sell their databases, allowing anyone to do the same.

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      7 months ago

      I think this is bad because it doesn’t solve any problems (efficacy of age verification systems is questionable at best) and introduces new problems (token system violates privacy). Censorship under governments creates black markets and reduces privacy at taxpayer expense. If they are concerned about child safety maybe they should start with what studies show are the most effective ways to accomplish that goal as opposed to ineffective, expensive wastes of time.

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    7 months ago

    This is a privacy issue but it’s a much much much less of a privacy issue than what the EU wants to do with that mandatory internet ID thing. This Spanish concept shows that you don’t need complete mass surveillance like other governments try to convince everyone in.

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      7 months ago

      Spain is officially hoping that their system will serve as a model for the rest of Europe, and then the rest of the world, so that everyone can work together to enforce the rules. Otherwise their citizens might just evade it by, for example, going to web sites that are not in Spain.

      That is why they give it such a grand name as “digital wallet.” It’s meant to become the basis for that European digital id you refer to, and used for much more than is happening with this initial trial balloon.

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    7 months ago

    This ensures traceability through the public key as content providers will consistently receive the same public key when the credential is presented

    What a ridiculous system. For some reason I expected that their efforts to offer an illusion of privacy would be better than the obfuscatory bullshit they’ve leaned on here in order to enable “traceability.”

    I hope it goes down so badly in Spain that the rest of Europe is once and for all convinced that such schemes to restrict and monitor the web browsing habits of every citizen are ineffective for their stated purpose, needlessly invasive of privacy and freedom, destructive of democracy, and can serve only as a prelude to totalitarianism.

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      7 months ago

      Having read the actual description of the protocol, such as it is, I should add in the interest of fairness that those "30 generated porn credits” do get you 30 new key pairs each month. They are issued directly by the central authority which knows exactly who they’re issuing them to, and the public key is presented directly to web sites you visit. But they promise not to track how you use them.

      That it’s so absurd and poorly designed is reassuring in a way. It’s difficult to imagine anyone using this.

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    7 months ago

    Instead of educating kids, it’s much easier to… not, and invade their privacy instead.

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      7 months ago

      Not long at all.

      Luckily I already wear t-shirts that advertise the weird kinks that I’m into. Otherwise this would make me really uncomfortable.

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    7 months ago

    So the reason they give you multiple credits instead of just a 30 day cookie when you sign into a website is that it’s anonymised right? You generate them and save them offline and the government doesn’t know which token belongs to who?

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    7 months ago

    I haven’t read enough to know if this is a good thing or not.

    But goddamn, I would hate having a 12 year old right now knowing how much terrible, awful shit is out there these days.

    I mean there’s a ton of accounts like Andrew Tate that are aimed at getting these kids on a terrible thought path while they’re still kids.

    I would hate to have my theoretical child reading all of the terrible bullshit that’s out there with no filter.

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      7 months ago

      I’m so much more worried about my future kids’ access to toxic alpha male shit and fascist propaganda than I am about porn.