The Spanish government has a plan to prevent kids from watching porn online: Meet the porn passport.

Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18. Porn-viewers will be asked to use the app to verify their age. Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content. Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits.

You have to request more porn credits from the government if you need more? Don’t want the government to be tracking this data of you. This is a privacy issue

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    So the reason they give you multiple credits instead of just a 30 day cookie when you sign into a website is that it’s anonymised right? You generate them and save them offline and the government doesn’t know which token belongs to who?

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    It’s always porn, isn’t it? We don’t need to protect children from misinformation, fascism, violence, racism, discrimination or exploitation on the internet, it’s always just porn for some reason…

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    I don’t think porn is a good thing, but the fact that even if you’re an adult with a pass you are limited is pretty bizarre. this is on top of the fact that you are already giving up your privacy to view it.

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    Ok tinfoil hat time.

    Perhaps this government anti-porn law stuff is backed by people who actually want to dismantle government altogether. And not in a fun Communist way but in a privatize everything, corporate serfdom way.

    By pushing for the government to do stupid and unpopular things, they can get people mad at the very concept of government. They can then use that to dismantle things like nationalized health care, fire departments, whatever.

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    This is a privacy issue but it’s a much much much less of a privacy issue than what the EU wants to do with that mandatory internet ID thing. This Spanish concept shows that you don’t need complete mass surveillance like other governments try to convince everyone in.

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      Spain is officially hoping that their system will serve as a model for the rest of Europe, and then the rest of the world, so that everyone can work together to enforce the rules. Otherwise their citizens might just evade it by, for example, going to web sites that are not in Spain.

      That is why they give it such a grand name as “digital wallet.” It’s meant to become the basis for that European digital id you refer to, and used for much more than is happening with this initial trial balloon.

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    This ensures traceability through the public key as content providers will consistently receive the same public key when the credential is presented

    What a ridiculous system. For some reason I expected that their efforts to offer an illusion of privacy would be better than the obfuscatory bullshit they’ve leaned on here in order to enable “traceability.”

    I hope it goes down so badly in Spain that the rest of Europe is once and for all convinced that such schemes to restrict and monitor the web browsing habits of every citizen are ineffective for their stated purpose, needlessly invasive of privacy and freedom, destructive of democracy, and can serve only as a prelude to totalitarianism.

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      Having read the actual description of the protocol, such as it is, I should add in the interest of fairness that those "30 generated porn credits” do get you 30 new key pairs each month. They are issued directly by the central authority which knows exactly who they’re issuing them to, and the public key is presented directly to web sites you visit. But they promise not to track how you use them.

      That it’s so absurd and poorly designed is reassuring in a way. It’s difficult to imagine anyone using this.

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    Instead of educating kids, it’s much easier to… not, and invade their privacy instead.

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      Not long at all.

      Luckily I already wear t-shirts that advertise the weird kinks that I’m into. Otherwise this would make me really uncomfortable.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Officially (and drily) called the Digital Wallet Beta (Cartera Digital Beta), the app Madrid unveiled on Monday would allow internet platforms to check whether a prospective smut-watcher is over 18.

    Once verified, they’ll receive 30 generated “porn credits” with a one-month validity granting them access to adult content.

    While the tool has been criticized for its complexity, the government says the credit-based model is more privacy-friendly, ensuring that users’ online activities are not easily traceable.

    It will be voluntary, as online platforms can rely on other age-verification methods to screen out inappropriate viewers.

    It heralds an EU law going into force in October 2027, which will require websites to stop minors from accessing porn.Eventually, Madrid’s porn passport is likely to be replaced by the EU’s very own digital identity system (eIDAS2) — a so-called wallet app allowing people to access a smorgasbord of public and private services across the whole bloc.

    “We are acting in advance and we are asking platforms to do so too, as what is at stake requires it,” José Luis Escrivá, Spain’s digital secretary, told Spanish newspaper El País.


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    Politicians keep trying to helicopter parent the entire populations of countries.

    Making sure your kids don’t go places online before they should, and have conversations with them about it once they reach an age where it happening is inevitable, is something every, single, parent, should do.

    Not the fucking state.

    And this has to be one the weirdest implementations of porn surveillance I’ve ever seen.

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      In my experience most parents are to lazy to keep up with setting appropriate restrictions for kids and like some parents, they expect someone else to raise and take care of their children.

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        That’s their problem. I’ll handle my kids, fuck the government and fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.

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          …fuck those useless parents as well. They should not have had kids.

          But that’s how the problem started in the first place!

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        So what? I’ve had the exact same experience.

        It’s not a reason for the state to overstep into ALL our lives. In fact, the state stepping in is giving such parents yet more excuses to put even less effort into shaping the adults that their children will become.

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      Exactly! Government granted ‘porn credits’ sounds absolutly insane as a serious idea…

      Porn “Enthusiasts will be able to request extra credits” is one wild sentence.

      A porn “enthusiast”, requesting the government for porn credits, to watch porn? What?

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    @Salix

    Lets see how this pans out and how well it works ( or does not work )

    What we perhaps need to do is start building respect for each other,

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    I’m not sure why this is the focus rather than legislating that router/access point manufacturers create robust and simple to use parental controls and then running public service campaigns that educate parents on how to use them.

    Not that I really care that much since I don’t watch porn. I just don’t think putting adult content behind a verification system that applies to everyone makes sense when the idea is to prevent kids, who generally have at least one person who controls the networking equipment and should be monitoring their devices/activity, from seeing it.

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      The fact that they don’t go for any of the many ways to manage access to porn that are more effective and less invasive of privacy suggests that the point is, as always, surveillance and not protecting children from porn.