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    So obviously fuck this nazi scumbag but I watched the uncensored version and it’s pretty obvious he was hacked or something like that.

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        Not sure to be honest, I’m all for supporting it and am fine with watching any kind of consensual porn, but the Reciepts link didn’t show me anything that proved anything.

        Never used that software though, it doesn’t show the navigation portion of going to a search engine or a bookmark/favorites or what not, I assume it must be screen sharing an individual monitor maybe, by why would the browser have opened on the other monitor there. Hard to say

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          Nah. It’s just trolls. This video looks like a straight up hack. And there’s no footage of him baiting I can find so it’s legit just a lie as far as I can tell. I don’t wanna defend this piece of shit but. Here I am. We need to figure out the truth before we go into outrage and HAHA mode…. Just childish and this is worse than Reddit. It CLEARLY looks like a hack and I’ve never seen a twitch stream cut completely offline and come back on without intervention. That’s just not how OBS works. It was not screen capturing anymore or didn’t appear to be.

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        i see this pretty commonly, and I’m not very familiar with the lore… what’s with the .ml?

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          They are typically far-left authoritarians. They love authoritarianism as long is it is pretending to be a socialist or communist economic system.

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            Tankies are far-right trolls claiming to be far-left. They support authoritarianism and violence against the vulnerable, which definitionally makes them right-wing, not left-wing.

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              Brother you may believe that, and I wish I did, but they are not pretending. It’s a fucking horseshoe with Nick on one end and Hasan on the other.

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        Wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of your worldview huh? It’s crazy how I can say this guy is a piece of shit but was hacked and it still triggers some people.

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        Also there’s a watermark advertising an anti-groper telegram group on the footage.

        Honestly, anyone who thinks it wasn’t hacked is just an idiot or doing it for political reasons. The latter are also idiots because this doesn’t even hurt his fanbase, they are fully aware it’s a hack, and are now blaming the Jews for it. It’s a complete win for them because they now convince themselves they are victims of Jewish aggression.

        The more I think about how unconvincing it is the worse I feel about the situation and the hacker. They could have done a lot more with a hacked stream key than this.

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        Have you watched it? It doesn’t show him browsing for porn it’s just continuous clip after clip of extreme porn.

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    What if the whole problem with gay people is that they become Nazi propagandists and Republican politicians all the time? I’m always hearing about it and I’m not sure I like people who are so likely to be Nazis or Republicans.

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      If moving to a civilized country is a potential option for you, it could pay off looking into your genealogy.

      I grew up in the US and moved to Norway after feeling like the country was nose-diving politically. I remember feeling serious shame for paying taxes to fund such horrendous actions, an unwavering sense of hopelessness, and even serious depression. I remember the first time I realised how much I felt like a foreigner in my own home country, and the existential dread those words brought with them, amplified by the fact that I felt like there was nothing in my power I could do to change that. It was so far beyond awful. I’m struggling to find the words that can accurately convey how bleak and worthless life in the US felt.

      And I say this as a cis white man. I’ve heard horror stories, but I can’t possibly imagine what it must be like for trans people in the US, especially in the past several years.

      At some point I learned that because my grandmother was born in a certain EU country and fled during WWII, I qualified for citizenship of that country, just by proving my relation to her. It took some time, but I got the documents in order to put together my application, and left everything behind to move to Norway. With EU citizenship, you could move almost anywhere in Europe you choose. I chose Norway for many many reasons, but scandinavia in general is just so incredibly politically refreshing. Regardless of political views, the system itself just… Works.

      Since you have 20+ years experience in your field, you might not even need to go though the process of getting a citizenship you may or may not qualify for as a birthright, depending on your profession. Many countries also have immigration laws in place making it extremely easy for skilled workers to relocate there, permanently. I know in Norway, the company hiring the skilled worker can essentially vouch for skilled workers, granting them the right of residency as soon as they’re hired. And there are many companies which post job listings in English, without requiring you to know the local language, because… Well, damn near everybody here is completely fluent in English and has no issue speaking English, or even switching to English for entire groups of people, even if only one person struggles with Norwegian.

      But anyway, I’m sorry you’re forced to feel the way you feel living in your own home country. I can relate to parts of it at least, and even the sum of those parts was unbearable for me. So it saddens me to read messages like yours. I just wanted to offer a suggestion that worked to stop these feelings for me, and ended up being the best damn decision I’ve ever made in my life.

      If you have questions or anything, feel free to send me a message.

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          Spätaussiedler? You’re not German, Waldemar. Everybody can tell. Go home to Vlad. He’ll need every man.

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            I have no idea what you mean. I was told by my grandparents that was my heritage: “German from Russia” both spoke fluent German, not Russian. I can’t recall all the details, although they did make a pretty detailed family tree. But if you know better, yay for you, I guess.

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          Haha we might not get as much nice weather and sun around here as someplace like San Diego, but man, when the weather is as nice as it has been these past few days, we make sure we enjoy the hell out if it. Plus, this time of year we get more daylight hours than most of the world. It’s truly spectacular walking outside at 3am this time of year, when the streetlights don’t even need to turn on for a couple of months straight.

          On the flip side, the winter months are dark and cloudy, with only around 4 hours of daylight for the weeks around the equinox, a few minutes of actual sun if you’re lucky and the clouds clear out temporarily. But if you ask me, the glorious summertime sun more than makes up for that.

          Plus, when I’m leaving the bar with my friends after last call and one of us faceplants on the concrete, it’s comforting to know that calling an ambulance won’t bury anyone in debt 😁😂

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              And here I was thinking you were being a bit tongue in cheek. Don’t be so offended that I left the US to live a better life, snowflake. Be glad I’m gone instead.

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                  Excuse my assumption, I’m just very familiar with the defensive patriotism-fuelled reactionary insults from Americans when they learn I live in Norway. I’ve never met anyone from Europe who had a similarly negative reaction to that, because why would they?

                  So I guess I’m a bit confused and a little curious as to what made you so sour for seemingly no reason. Care to fill me in?

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      Hey, cash out your savings and live in Taiwan. We are the first Asian country in the world to acknowledge gay marriage and have a vibrant LGBTQ+ community. Even this year’s winner for RuPaul’s drag race went to a Taiwanese contestant.

      We would welcome you with open arms and invite you to work here.

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      Go buy firearms and join/start an LGBTQIA+ militia. Either you train to protect yourself, or you can continue what you are currently doing which is roll over and die in the torrent of hate instead of fighting it back.

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        “Tired of constantly stressing over politics? Buy guns and radicalize yourself, surely you will be much happier and safer!”

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          Having the tools and knowledge to keep yourself safe does not make you radicalized. That’s like saying learning how to swim or getting a boat means you were radicalized by water. Or learning first aid makes you a radicalized combat medic.

          Getting a gun is a much less radical plan than changing countries…

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          They are already radicalized and continue to do so without stopping.

          They already outnumber you and force/infiltrate local governments to enact laws that threaten your existence.

          Unless you organize and do the same to counter their actions (LGBTQIA+ friendly militias that train everyday life skills, survival and marksmanship) instead of meekly arguing on the internet, they will fucking destroy you.

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            I’d rather be destroyed than fundamentally change my entire fucking life. Why are we never allowed to live comfortable, normal lives? Why do we always have to struggle? If they want me dead so badly, so be it. But they’ll have to kill me, am unarmed, untrained individual. If there are people ready and willing to do that, then why would I want to live on this evil planet anymore?

            You are fearmongering as well, especially when it’s not even feasible for most people to go down the path you seem to think we all should. If our choices are die, or die with a gun in hand, I’ll just choose to fucking die.

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              You forget we came from what are essentially violent chimps. You can’t ignore the fact that many people only respond to violence because they’re still unable to shrug of their chimp behaviors due to years of religious indoctrination.

              Go ahead and give up, just don’t encourage others to simply lay down and die with you because you feel alone in your acceptance of your shitty fate in life.

              Instead you should inspire others to fight back for you since you’re too lazy to do it your fucking self

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                Easy to criticize when you aren’t the one at risk of losing your rights. Fuck you. Your fearmongering bullshit is pathetic, you come off as an internet tough guy and it’s sad. Have fun acting tough on Lemmy, if that’s what gets you off.

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                  It sounds like what I said triggered you, and I sincerely apologize about that. That was not my intent here.

                  I’m just trying to say if you’re okay being a useless person, that’s fine.

                  Just stop encouraging other people to be as useless as you and rather inspire them to take action and make the world better instead of sitting on your ass here with me and arguing dumb things like a typical internet dipshit.

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                  I just want to say I’ll lay down and die with you if the alternative is whatever psychotic fantasy that other guy is living in.

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        They were talking about being tired and getting away from it all, what you’re describing sounds like the least relaxing activity possible

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          The thing is, unless they are willing to uproot their life and leave the country for somewhere more tolerant, there is no “getting away from it all”.

          These fascist fuck stains have been hugely emboldened by the last 8 years. If Trump ends up winning in November, they can and will start forming posses to target anyone who doesn’t conform to the heteronormative ideal. In that context, being able to defend oneself — and being part of a group that is very much on the same page as you about defending theirselves — actually makes it far more comforting than you may realize.

          I was going to link to Tenacious Unicorn Ranch in Colorado as a case study, but apparently they were all evicted over a year ago, despite having a positive rapport with and significant support from the surrounding community. That’s really disheartening to hear. Not sure if there’s any sort of similar communities elsewhere of a similar nature (either as successor organizations or simply philosophically similar ones), but a handful of cursory searches didn’t turn up anything.

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          Security in armed numbers, security means safety, you can sleep easy if someone else is pulling watch.

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            I don’t often quote Marx, but this one is highly pertinent:

            Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

            Which in my opinion, speaks to the true intent of the Second Amendment, regardless of whatever the Tribunal of Six is trying to mutate it into these days.

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          You cannot escape bigotry. They spend their free time hating you, it’s their fucking hobby and brings them joy. They will eventually find you because they enjoy seeing left-leaning or LGBTQIA people suffering.

          You either die soft, slow, dumb, and ignorant to how far they are willing to go to see you gone, or organize and fight it back.

          We didn’t fight religious fascists and Nazis in WW2 with fucking protests and angry finger waggles and holding up signs.

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        I agree, if trans people start arming themselves at events, there’s no way the cowardly “proud” boys will show up

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          If Trans people start open carrying en masse, the state of Texas will have a sudden uptick of scared Uber drivers and maybe the rest of the nation will get more gun control laws a la the Black Panthers, ya know?

          Now, if it’s concealed carry, they won’t have a chance to pull on you before they get a wet sweatshirt, just remember “you were afraid they were going to point it at you.”

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            they won’t have a chance to pull on you before they get a wet sweatshirt, just remember “you were afraid they were going to point it at you.”

            Wait what does this mean?

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              It means shoot first and claim self-defense like conservatives always do.

              I think the “wet sweatshirt” is referring to blood leaking from a wound from the good guy shooting the bad guy before the bad guy could shoot the good guy.

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        Yep, it’s rather demoralizing when the side of sanity and critical thought are ranting about getting rid of all firearms, when the other side already has enough firearms to turn a potential civil war into Team America vs. Cavemen Throwing Rocks At Each Other.

        Be less like Ghandi and be more like fucking Black Panthers. Or at least support the 2nd Amendment and stop with this pointless bullshit about how we don’t need guns because the city police is totally going to have our backs :rollseyes:

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      Most of those backwards transphobic states also make it pretty easy to purchase a concealable firearm and also frequently allow such concealment without much red tape. Food for thought my friend.

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    With a last name like Fuentes, the Nazis would have probably thrown him in a camp. I don’t understand why some people are white supremacists when they aren’t completely white. It’s like, are they racist against themselves? It’s like watching Dave Chapelle’s stand up routine about the blind, black, white supremacist. Are people like Fuentes for real?

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                Exactly. This Fuentes guy is trying to join a club that would immediately deny him admission. He really needs to self reflect. Everyone should be laughing at him.

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                  But he isn’t trying to join the NSDAP. He’s an American neo-nazi. They’re more closely affiliated with the know nothings and KKK if anything. American whiteness is their thing. Frankly they’d probably be more supportive of his family than mine because my family immigrated (from Germany) not crazy long ago. Will they eat him? Of course, but more because that’s just what they do

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              Is there any evidence for this?

              Spain didn’t fight in the war but there was a sizable Spanish SS division fighting for germany, although pretty much every European country and ethnicity had an people fighting on German side.

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                The fact that Spain allowed a Muslim mosque to be built across from Cathedral of Saint Mary the Royal of the Almudena just makes me question it. Also, the fact that Hitler was NOT Catholic, makes me think he wouldn’t consider a country of Catholics and Muslims to be on the same level as his people. Hitler’s plan for a master race was to make a race of blond haired, blue eyed people; traits of Norway and Sweden. I will never understand Hitler on that one. He was a short, O+ male, with dark hair who wanted everyone to resemble tall, broad shouldered, blond haired, blue eyed, people who typically have an rh- blood type. I’m surprised the man didn’t throw himself into one of those camps.

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      ‘White’ is a made up category that changes its meaning in different countries and contexts. All identities are arbitrary. If you derive social or material benefit from a fascist identity, you might decide it’s worth it to be a fascist.

      It’s not uncommon for people who might be read as a marginalized identity to adopt an identity that hedges against being part of that marginalized identity - gay republicans, poor billionaire-stans, anti-immigration migrants, etc.

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        Right. I think grouping people by color would make much less sense than grouping people by something that actually matters in the event of an emergency. People have spent so many years hyper-focused on race, religion, color, and sexuality. When someone drops to the ground from cardiac arrest, no one cares about those things. What they should be asking is, “what is this person’s blood type, in the event they require heart surgery and need blood transfusions?” No one ever seems to care about the differences in people that can determine life or death at some point. No one ever cares about what really matters until it’s too late. Society wants to divide itself? That’s great! Let’s do that by blood type so everyone can live near their potential blood donors, and people they could potentially help in medical emergency. Everyone will just downvote this, I’m sure, and go right back to discussing racial supremacy and who said what to hurt someone else’s feelings, in the political arena.

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    It does look like it was hacked, but I don’t have any experience with how a duplicate stream source plays out in a situation like this. Just that I can’t easily imagine how misclicks or a bad setup would result in this particular series of events in something like OBS.

    The twitter and kiwifarms threads are predictably useless (also this one, c’mon guys, use your brains, we’re supposed to be better than reddit). According to the groypers Nick was outed as gay some time ago, but he prefers femboys over this kind of stuff. I’m not a Fuentes lore expert but I feel like I’ve heard this before so maybe it’s true.

    Kinda funny to see the right eating itself alive in the kiwifarms thread with neonazis screaming crazy antigay bigotry on one side, and groyper neonazis coping hard on the other.

    But what I really want to know is how the stream key was stolen. I hope whoever did it comes forward soon. I feel like the groypers aren’t going to be fazed by this and will just build themselves up with more conspiracy. It would be better imo to just slam Nick for his trash op-sec.

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      A few of them are true Captain Planet cartoon villains in their hearts (McConnel, MangoBastard), but for the most part yes.

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        I once heard someone try to say Captain Planet was actually harmful to discussions on environmentalism because it portrayed the “bad guys” aka oil barons, loggers etc. as physically deformed monster men who were cartoonishly Evil with a capital E, and people who watched the show as a child treat people who work at power plants or refineries or whatever as if they’re Just Evil and don’t have room to debate that stable grid power is exceptionally important.

        But no turns out they genuinely are physically deformed monster men who are cartoonishly Evil with a capital E.

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        Every single member of Donald’s cabinet was comically evil. Like the sort of appointments that would happen in a comic book so that the reader knows for certain they are completely corrupt.

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      I’m yet to see a radical be against something and it not be because they hate themselves. Either they want others to suffer like them, or to struggle like they had to, or to not let the “unworthy” be more similar to them.

      • You can’t be gay! - probably closeted gay
      • you can’t work from home! - probably is a bad worker if noone is watching over them
      • You can’t abort! - probably did it themselves and regretted or are the result of a failed attempt
      • You can’t have x! - probably has x and doesn’t want others to be equal to them
      • You can’t use drugs! - probably uses drugs
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        I’m pretty sure my mother, who is staunchly against abortion, is only against it because my grandmother offered to pay to abort me and my mother refused the offer and regrets it. She was 18 and her aunt then refused to pay for her college because she got knocked up. But you get what you get, and she got a gay son. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      The evidence is mounting. Pretty sure this has been researched by psychologists, does anyone know of a good book about this?

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    Hold up though. So nick definitely went offline as there was a break in the stream. Then his account started broadcasting full screen gay porn. Also there’s a telegram handle “groyprape” in the corner that wasn’t there before. I mean we already know his… Preferences, but this actually looks like someone got a hold of his api key.

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        Ah yes, do you agree with my demonstrably false view of the world or are you a Nazi. Classic Hasan viewer energy.

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          Okay, let’s pretend someone stole his api and made him look like a hypocrite, why would it matter and why would you point that out? Being honorable towards a nazi is usually a nazi protecting a fellow nazi.

          Have you ever heard Fuentes speak? He is an admitted nazi, not someone who hides it.

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            I point it out because I dislike seeing the side I identify with using the tactics of the side I don’t identify with.

            If the left wants to use misinformation and lies they are little better than Nazis spreading blood libel.

            Additionally this strategy is incredibly dumb in his particular instance. When you misinform you are gambling that people viewing the claim won’t attempt to look at the evidence. In this case the evidence is a single clip that is an obvious example of a hack. Many people are likely to investigate it. Many people on the fence will think you are liars, all Nick’s supporters will reinforce their belief that the other side are liars, and many of your supporters will think you are liars.

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      The straights don’t blame the gays!

      This shit stain is pretty disgusting

      PS with that being said, it seems with this much gay representation on the republican side, we would see some more “tolerance”

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        …? So your response to “look how fucked Nazis are” is “so are others’”? So confused why this is upvoted.

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          Its getting upvoted because it illustrates that sometimes the “goodguys” are actually really awful too and you shouldn’t trust them just because they are against the “badguys”.

          Now noticing who I’m replying to it is almost self parody that you in particular missed this point.

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            I could sort of get the point (which is obvious), it’s just that the comment almost sounds like “the Nazis weren’t even as bad”.

            Now noticing who I’m replying to it is almost self parody that you in particular missed this point.

            This is cryptic, care to elaborate?

      • BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Why do people keep saying this bullshit lol.

        Allies weren’t leaving gays in concentration camps. Persecution at home is an entirely different story.

        At the end of the war, the majority of homosexuals were freed from camps in both parts of divided Germany. However, the homophobia directed against them by the public remained strong. Article 175—the basis for sending thousands of innocent people to concentration camps—remained in force in the DDR until 1967, and in West Germany until 1969. There were some American and British lawyers who demanded that homosexuals convicted under Article 175 serve out their full sentences. For instance, if someone had been sentenced to eight years and served five years of the sentence in prison followed by three years in a concentration camp, the lawyers demanded that the person return to prison to serve out three years. The number of people forced to “complete” their sentences in this way is not known. To this day, no financial compensation has been paid to the victims of Nazi homosexual policies, despite the fact that the German government offered compensation to victims of Jewish ethnicity, political prisoners, and other groups that survived the concentration camps. Only the homosexuals were passed over. Many people deny that the homosexuals have a right to any such compensation, stating that victims with an alternative sexual orientation were justly imprisoned, and “had no one but themselves to blame.”

        Significant numbers of the homosexuals who survived the war found themselves unable to return to their families or hometowns following their camp experiences. There were many reasons for this. Above all, however, shame and the fear of being stigmatized motivated homosexuals to change not only their addresses but everything else that could have been associated with their earlier lives.

        The attempts that homosexuals made to conceal their pasts in the camps combined with the attitudes prevailing in postwar Europe to make it difficult for researchers to find many of those who had been sentenced under Article 175. As one of those researchers, Richard Plant, noted in his book The Pink Triangle: “Despite the fact that they no longer had to wear the pink triangles that designated them, they remained marked to the end of their lives.”

        https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2021/feb/opinion-gay-holocaust-victims-and-survivors-are-often-forgotten-we-need-tell-their-stories

        https://time.com/5953047/lgbtq-holocaust-stories/

        https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/categories-of-prisoners/homosexuals-a-separate-category-of-prisoners/robert-biedron-nazisms-pink-hell/

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        1 year ago

        The English chemically castrated the guy who broke the Nazi codes that let us win the war, he killed himself over it and England took 60 years to say “my bad”.