• ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, same here. There was a video circulating before his first term (long before AI and deepfakes) where someone took apart an interview she did talking about “doing business” as a “model” and all the various ways her responses were common to the jargon of prostitution.

        It wasn’t just one thing, it was many things, even one part where she put her hand up to her mouth like she knew she should not have said something the way she did because it was an obvious pointer to sex work.

        If I can find it I’ll post it, but I haven’t seen it since 2015 or thereabouts.

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        Not if you consume mainstream media. The oligarchs keep their employees muzzled when it comes to specific topics.

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        Trafficking involves coercion. We’ve heard a lot about the minors, but not all Epstein’s connections, sexual or otherwise, were coerced: many were legally of age who were simply paid.

        By all accounts, Melania came to the US of her own free will and was an adult when she interacted with Epstein. There is no evidence she was ever coerced, nor that she was pimped. She’s never said she was, and no one has ever suggested that about her.

        And to drive the point home, she is most certainly acting out of her own free will now, and to the same end: selling her [name, title, access to power, story] for money.

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          I am sorry are you suggesting that people of legal age who are trafficked have not been coerced. We have tons of first hand accounts of the manipulation that Epstein and Maxwell used regardless of age. Everything from exposure to sexual acts and nudity to wear down resistance to promises of connections and other benefits.

          Do you think she was in her right mind hanging out as a coked out escort for a human trafficker and pedophile? Also, her access to the Einstein visa is extremely suspect as she in no way qualified for it.

          Who was the one who helped her secure it. Was it Trump who she was supposed to be dating at the time. If so and if it was not a bribery situation, why has she not released her application.

          I think you may be purposely downplaying what happened to her to because of your own held personal beliefs. Remember, according to Maxwell Trump and Epstein never did anything wrong. Why should we put trust in what Melania says when she is a demonstrable liar.

          https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/20/blog-posting/claim-about-melania-trump-touting-false-credential/

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        Totally possible but being victimized as tragic as it is isn’t a justification for joining those that victimized you to victimize others

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          I dated a girl before she Turned Pro. Decades later she filled me in on her short stint, and this one gem:

          • if she’s waiting for you, she’s a whore
          • if you’re waiting somewhere for her, she’s an escort or a call-girl.

          One of them has more rules, too.

          But I dunno.

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            A high-class whore is still a whore.

            No shade, and do what you want - grab that bag if that’s what you want, but there’s little difference between a street walker, a call girl, or a porn star. You’re still being paid for sex, simple as that. If it’s consensual, and nobody is being exploited then whatever.

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            if you’re waiting somewhere for her, she’s an escort or a call-girl.

            if she is an escort, than you having to pay should have been a hint. and are you saying that normal girls and women are never late? this “wisdom” seems more like something someone read in a playboy and didn’t think about it much…

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                Read it again.

                yeah, lets try.

                I dated a girl before she Turned Pro. Decades later she filled me in on her short stint

                they talked to former hooker

                and this one gem: [gem]…

                and this one gem… sentence misses predicate, so i have no fucking idea what they are trying to say.

                One of them has more rules, too.

                one of who? what?

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                  Maybe there is some cultural gap.

                  Note: I am not saying this commenter is correct. I am attempting to parse the words for you to get a better handle on what I think they meant.

                  They are explaining how if you are paying for sex and you are waiting for the sex worker to show up (indicating that they hold some power in the transaction) then they are an escort or a call-girl.

                  If the sex worker was standing around waiting for a client (indicating less power in the transaction on their side) Then they are a ‘whore’ or ‘hooker.’

                  The ‘one of them has more rules’ comment is saying that the group being called escort or call girl has more rules about what you are allowed to do/have done to you than the group under the banner of hooker or whore.


                  Again - not my words, not my belief. I am only playing translator.

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                    well my experience does not extend beyond watching the diary of a callgirl, but i think that

                    (indicating that they hold some power in the transaction)

                    is romanticizing it little bit. power in any transaction belongs to person paying. the difference is you pick one of them on her street corner and the other one in the hotel lobby, but i don’t see that fact as any mysterious revelation. and i don’t think that callgirl being constantly late would get lot of repeated business.