I’m using runbox with custom domain. No issues.
Been with Posteo for years now. They’re very solid.
I’ve been with Mailbox for years now too. Also very solid.
Define “safe”?
Like, preferably not spied on like with Gmail or whatever the MS one is.
I’ve been using fastmail.com for a long time and am satisfied, though it’s on the expensive side and I haven’t looked into every alternative.
If you want cheap email hosting for your own domain, mxroute.com has been around for a while and cranemail.com is new, but both are small companies run by people who know what they are doing (online acquaintances of mine if that matters).
For my own domains I’m using Migadu since they support unlimited domains per account. Quite happy with them…
Yes, I forgot Migadu. I played with it a little and it was nice, though I think it costs more now.
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That’s the most absurd thing an email service can do,
that’s how i lost my first hotmail address 😢
I wonder if any comparable services don’t re-use the address when it’s on the service’s domain, maybe after a grace period. I use fastmail mostly for my own domains though I do have some addresses on theirs. Certainly if you let a domain expire, the registrar will sell it to someone else. Seems similar.
Someone once offered me a nice chunk of cash for one of my domains. I might have accepted it if they didn’t want the domain handed over immediately. It’s a domain I receive some email through, so would have wanted a shutdown period to prevent at least some of the email for ending up with the domain’s new owner.
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Have a look at Proton and Tuta (used to be Tutanova)
Used to be Tutanota*
Oops. Correct 👍
I’ve been using Tuta for almost two years now and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s really good. Check out [email protected] or https://tuta.com/
It’s hosted in Germany and is very privacy-focused
Were some people concerned with Germany hosting and the way the right leaning party (Germany for Germans?) was gaining popularity? And something about their data views. Although maybe I was wrong.
From whwat I see though mailbox and posteo are the same.
Afaik, Proton and Tuta are the only free ones with zero-knowledge encryption
Proton allows only one free email address, which is what taught me to be wary of unexpected restrictions on services. I’ve got to say the only one I trust fully is my own. DuckDuckGo email is a good firewall layer as well - it forwards all mail to your chosen actual address after trying its best to strip the mail of trackers.
You can create as many free email accounts with ProtonMail as you like.
Proton now is a non-profit but their employees still need salary. Throw them a couple bucks if you like their service.
Do that with anyone whose services you enjoy. That’s how you help them survive.
Login into Proton-Pass for 10 free aliases… but, it doesn’t require your ID or anything to create an email, you can create how many you want :S
I’ve started using Disroot recently and I’m satisfied so far.
I am using mailbox.org for years now.
One thing to consider about mailbox.org is that if you don’t use your own custom domain and keep an @mailbox.org address (which afaik is considered a best practice for privacy because it lets you “hide” in the crowd), if you decide to move on later they will make your old address available to others later.
Proton Mail, Tuta mail, runbox.com, to name three.
I considered them, but had a problem with two things about them: they both a) don’t allow custom domains (which is fine for privacy) and b) recycle email addresses, meaning that if you move on later they will make your old email address available to others.
That’s going to be very interesting with persistent spam senders.
I use posteo and simplelogin together.
Don’t Proton just get caught revealing a French activist’s IP address to authorities? Might stay away from that one for now.
Any webservice, like mail, cloud services and social platform, as even eg, Lemmy and other online platform, is forced to reveal the user data they have, if there is an court order a cause of an criminal investigation. Proton can’t in this case evade the info they have, it is the IP and the account data, content of the mail is encrypted, so they can give only encrypted data in this case.
This has nothing to do with privacy rights, this protect the privacy only from access of private data without an court order in the EU. In the same case as with this activist, also Tuta, Murena and any other private mail service would have done exactly the same thing as Proton.
If you are searched by law, never is a good idea to create an account anywhere. Drug barons use pen and paper for communication because of this.
Mind you that Switzerland is not in the EU.
Well, it’s not in the Eurozone, but it’s strict with the EU Privacy laws, in Europe it’s only the Vatican out of the EU, only in the Eurozone for practical reasons.
I know that they’re in the EEA though.
Proton is not what you want to use if you are trying to hide from the government but if you are trying to starve google of your data its a solid option.
This happened years ago afaik, but lemmy keeps sharing it around for some reason.
For context, proton encrypts the traffic, not the IP Address. While I dont remember how long IP Addresses stay in their logs, you can easily avoid exposing your true IP address by using a VPN, which is clearly not what that acitvist had done.
Proton is still compelled to follow government laws in order to operate, and will hand over what info they have when compelled to. If that info is something their service can encrypt, such as emails, cloud storage, passwords, and so on, then it will look like jumped data when handed over. You IP address can’t reasonably be encrypted, and neither can your primary email that is associated with you proton account. If your primary email has revealing info, then thats on you for not obfuscating it more. If you arent using a VPN to access services, then your IP address will be indicative of where your traffic might be coming from. The end user does need to take extra steps to make sure their traffic is secure, and proton does talk about this in their documentation.
Proton is one of very few companies Ive seen pass third party security audits. They may not be perfect, but they are secure, and I’ve yet to see that truly disproven.
Proton claimed there was no way to appeal, but Swiss law is not bound by Interpol. I think what it really amounts to is they are not going to protect their users. This is why you don’t pay for let alone use a corporation’s services unless you willing to give up your privacy.
Proton is not your friend, they have and will continue to betray their users. Do not trust them or any corporation that is not willing to fight for their users.
Operating in other countries means you do need to follow their laws in order to operate in them. Being a swiss company doesnt make them exempt from the laws of other countries, and not complying risks them losing business in other countries. Their products do work, but the user needs to use them correctly to not put themselves in a position where they can be traced. The activist clearly wasnt using a vpn when accessing their email.
I do agree, dont trust proton, never trust any corporation, but i also know enough about how their tech works and how to manage my own online privacy that I know they arent just blowing smoke. I would much rather have proton comply with the law and continue to be accessible for most of the world, than have them fight for a single user who could have done more to protect themselves and potentially lose the ability to run their services for other countries. Most people arent self hosting, so they cant run their own secure services. Proton is a much better option than the fascist bowing corpos who run most of the tech world. Until self hosting becomes accessible for regular people, I will continue to recommend proton as the easiest option to have secure services with.
Corporations can and do fight for their users. Proton is not one of these companies. I think that says all we need to know about their commitments to their users. You are welcome to continue leading people to a business that have shown that they are not willing to do what is right because profit is their primary motivation.
Proton Mail is good, just don’t use the paid version of any Proton service. The paid version will delete your email address if you don’t keep up with payments.
You can get a lifetime subscription to Proton Pass sometimes, and that’s what I did. I suspect that may protect my account from deletion due to inactivity if I’m picked up by ICE or hit by a car and put in a coma (just examples, I’m not American). I’m not sure if it has that effect though.
The paid version will delete your email address if you don’t keep up with payments.
I emailed them a little over a year ago about this because the terms of service were unclear. I was told by support that my main address wouldn’t be deleted, but I would be moved down to the free tier in every way – so I would lose my extra addresses and aliases, as well as extra storage space. I was also told that there was a 30-day grace period in case my renewal payment didn’t go through for some reason.
Purelymail. Really good and cheap it all you need is email. No extra cost to bring your own domain.
I’ve been usingPrivate Email for the last few years. Run by NameCheap, I think. Got the account same time as my domain. No complaints so far. Haven’t heard anything troubling about them either.
It has a web ui if that’s your thing, but I’ve never used it.
Tuta mail
