How about those of us who can’t due to the nature of our jobs?
You… uh… exist I guess? I’m not sure what you’re getting at here.
Well, if you get to work out there in nature then you’re already winning! 🤪
I work in a windowless lab
Could’ve just asked.
CEOs: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Like they GAF. They’ve got the money & politicians in their pockets, so inconvenient truths are easily trodden over.
They know this. A schismed individual is a compliant employee.
I find it really weird that companies would want to pay the enormous cost of maintaining huge buildings full of people, that don’t actually need to be there, in person. That just seems like a huge waste of money.
Control freaks are afraid of not getting the full attention of their employees - especially the “overemployed” crowd holding down multiple jobs simultaneously while working from home.
Sunk cost fallacy
Partly because people that control large companies that lease large office buildings have a lot of money to lose if office space were devalued as much as it should be.
Large commercial office spaces are one of the more historically stable investments that banks have money tied up in. The WFH shift of covid was a massive threat to those portfolios and freaked people out
This is the answer. And the C levels renting from these spaces are absolutely invested in the companies that lease the space.
I’ve seen it even more incestuous as well. CEO buys building for kids and lets other C levels get in on it. The company rents a space. Everyone at C level agrees it’s the best space because they can get a sweetheart deal on rent for the company. Company pays for space, money flows back to C Suite and CEO doesn’t have to pay for kids’ lifestyles anymore.
There’s a very nice office building like that down from me, except it’s CEOs cousin or nephew or something. It came out when they started pushing for RTO as soon as they could.
Must be nice getting C level salary, a little extra in your bonus for getting a sweetheart rental deal, and passive income from being a partial owner of the building your company rents from.
The money isn’t the whole point. It’s also about control and emotions. Management wants to feel a way and they’ll pay for it. And/or make you pay for it
If I was working again I’d rather work at the office. I wouldn’t be productive working at home. I need accountability. Not everyone likes working from home
That’s fine if it’s your choice, but there are a number of various reasons working from home may be better for other people.
Why do you even care? You don’t get paid more if you are productive.
I had the same assumption about myself before 2020. Turns out I’m way less distracted at home because I control the things that would distract me. So I’m much more productive. Was actually a huge surprise to me.
But then how will they make money renting out the office space?
Who they gonna rent it to when the other companies are trying to do the same?
Does anyone have a link to the actual study? The article doesn’t seem to have it.
I’m having a tough time finding it. I found this citation from an article that appeared to reference the same four year study.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0248008
And to be clear, that study does not have those conclusions:
Participants slept 27 minutes longer (95% CI 9–51), got up 38 minutes later (95% CI 25–50), and did 50 fewer minutes (95% CI -69–-29) of light physical activity during COVID-19 restrictions. Additionally, participants engaged in more cycling but less swimming, team sports and boating or sailing. Participants consumed a lower percentage of energy from protein (-0.8, 95% CI -1.5–-0.1) and a greater percentage of energy from alcohol (0.9, 95% CI 0.2–1.7). There were no changes in weight or wellbeing. Overall, the effects of COVID-19 restrictions on lifestyle were small; however, their impact on health and wellbeing may accumulate over time.
Yeah I’m a researcher in the field that studies stuff like this and it’s infuriating that there is no citation for this. I can probably find it but it’s just horrible “journalism” to have no citation to the subject of your article.
I haven’t looked extensively, but for the past ten minutes I’ve not been able to find any article. About 20 different news stories to say the same thing, but none of them actually link a peer reviewed published article.
When you have to conduct a literature review just to find the results of one study there is something deeply wrong
What? You don’t automatically trust “The Editorial Team’s” assertion at the bottom that “This article is based on verified sources and supported by editorial technologies” is valid? I mean they linked to a few other articles - the fact they’re only ones on their own site shouldn’t matter…
🙄 “Trust me, bro!”
I got it from this totally legit article.
I know it’s legit because it has a picture of a Man Working At Home With A Laptop, Wearing A Shirt.
Wearing A Shirt
And nothing else!
This has been correct for all of human history. I’m not sure why anyone would have assumed the invention of the cubicle would have changed this.
Their attempts to manipulate the gene pool and turn us into veal calves doesn’t seem to be going well…
I’ve been studying managers for much longer, and I’ve reached a very clear conclusion: they don’t care.
Managers are playing the game. Rules vary from company to company but are broadly similar.
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Take credit for your subordinates work as if you did it.
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Make sure you have enough scapegoats to cover the fuckups.
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Time to repeat my topical story.
I worked for a startup that prided itself on being “data driven”. They’d talk about how other startups were doing stupid things because they followed their feelings instead of data.
One day in one of those all hands meetings, the CEO was taking questions. Someone said, “Studies are showing that four day work weeks are more effective on like every metric. Can we look into that?”
The CEO said "No, we’re not doing that ". Didn’t read the linked studies. Didn’t entertain it at all. His mind was made up, and the data was irrelevant.
Because he doesn’t really care about data. He cares about feeling smart and irreverent. He cares about being seen as a cool disruptive startup guy who’s going to grind his way to success.
The dishonesty makes me want to puke.
But you know what also makes me sick? All the sycophantic boot lickers that would gather round and tell him his every idea was great. The people who would work unpaid long hours to “get shit done”. Bunch of fucking wormtongues who would sell out their coworkers for crumbs.
Maybe he was a real person once who really did care about data. But by the time I met him, he was an empty suit
Lol, did we work at the same place?
“Empty suits” it’s the realest statement.
I resigned my position because I couldn’t take it anymore. I told leadership that I refuse to use my skills and talents for those who I do not respect, and they responded by saying that there was a lot of money on the line.
They can fucking keep it. Fucking ghouls.
maybe we all met. i woked in the same place.
except there wasn’t a lot of money on the table, just money shaped carrots they dangled in front of us to have us overworked to death.
That’s exactly it.
When they said that there’s a lot of money on the line they meant for themselves since they were partners.
They offered to share some of it with me in the shape of a very generous 3% contingent salary increase, which would come with strings attached like everything they ever offered me.
I’ve been learning to grow veggies, cook dry beans, and bake bread since money is tight after I resigned, and my partner and I are way happier because I’m not as stressed out from dealing with sociopaths and morons at work all day long.
You just reminded me of a similar incident at a company I worked at. Larger than a startup, but still not huge. Same situation where it was a question at an all hands, the response from the CTO was simply that he had not seen that data and immediately moved on.
Funny thing was, the guy that asked the question wasn’t even adding about a 32 hour work week, he just wanted to option to do 4 10s over 5 8s but they moved on from his question so fast they never gave him a chance to clarify.
AI article and website
than local govts wont get any revenue from commuting and businesses, and ceos wont be able to be control freaks and lord of thier subjects.
Me with ADHD who can’t do shit from home, hiding in the back corner of the open space.
Isn’t diversity neat? My ADHD pulls a gun on me if I get within 30 meters of an office.
Work mode activated ?
