• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    4 months ago

    It’s almost like free will by definition means that God doesn’t control the actions. Did God bomb those Palestinian kids or are humans choosing to do so?

    Or are those humans forced to do so by deterministic nature, thus making their action morally neutral and not evil at all?

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      4 months ago

      Can you prove free will exists? Also- if your god exists, and created those people that are killing innocents; yes. He is directly to blame.

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        Unless you believe that you hold no agency over the choices you make in life you believe in free will. You can observe yourself making choices.

        You have stated you believe in the existence of free will already by proclaiming the act of killing children to be wrong. Without free will it would simply be a predetermined event and good and evil would not exist.

        Taking it a step further, if it’s impossible for humans to receive free will because of determinism, then you must also say that God has no free will. Which then absolves God of anything you deem “evil”.

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          And you’ve proven you have no idea what anyone here has been talking about. Remove your head from your religious ass, and read again. If your god has no free will, he isn’t a god. If you think a “lesser being” not having free will implies their creator doesn’t; that is a new brand of illogical religious bull that I hadn’t heard yet.

          For the record- I don’t believe free will does or does not exist. I think it’s irrelevant. If-in my mind- the choices I make are perceived as my own, it does not matter if it was predetermined or not.

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            You’re falling over yourself in fallacies and are so busy being a Reddit Atheist that you’re just throwing out adhominems instead of addressing the argument. Also you’re doing a lot of assumptions about me.

            If your god has no free will, he isn’t a god

            So if God can have free will… why can’t humans have free will?

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              You’re falling over yourself in fallacies and are so busy being a Reddit Atheist that you’re just throwing out adhominems instead of addressing the argument. Also you’re doing a lot of assumptions about me.

              Once you stop talking like a religious nut, you’ll stop getting replied to like one.

              So if God can have free will… why can’t humans have free will?

              If humans have free will, why can’t computers have free will?

              You’re not beating the allegations of having no idea what the adults in the room are discussing.

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                4 months ago

                Be Atheist

                See Atheist people kiling religious people

                Barge into thread to blame God and profess your own (a)religious affinity as the correct one

                Start shouting and insulting anyone pointing out the stupidity of the arguments made

                It’s like Reddit Atheists decided to become the Mormons of the internet except a hundred times more obtrusive.

                If humans have free will, why can’t computers have free will?

                Did an omnipotent being proclaim that computers have free will?

                I tip my fedora to you good sir.