…and then there’s “COPS”.
I vividly remember watching and loving many of the police dramas when i was younger. C.S.I. being my favourite.
I remember stumbling across COPS on one of the newer “cooler” swedish channels thinking, oh, thats so cool, they will totalt be like the shows i like.
After one episode of screaming, loud, obnoxious and frankly stupid people being chased by their equals, my illusion was shattered. Or atleast i knew that COPS weren’t for those that likes to see crime get solved.
The police aren’t there to keep you safe, they’re there to protect the interests of the oligarchs
Tesla Lives Matter!
Thank Jesus for The Wire
The one written by a crime historian, with help from a retired homicide detective
Go figure it paints the most realistic picture
Didn’t that show get only like one or two seasons?
5, and they only intended 5 to tell the whole story they had
And Homicide. When I started watching it, I was surprised when some episodes ended but the investigation didn’t lead to anything and the cops didn’t really care.
In The Wire, I really liked when the cop found out the code used by dealers. He started saying “Those kids didn’t go to school so the code should be simple…”
Believe it or not, also Copaganda
Oh, it walks a line for sure.
For those in doubt, check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOXQpkUhZyc (also on Nebula)
I really recommend the whole series. It explains the origins of cop shows and their use as copaganda, as well as analyzing everything from Marvel movies to Paw Patrol in their depiction of law enforcement.
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Yeah CSI made you think that there was this dedicated team of people trying to get to the bottom of every case being very diligent and careful with every piece of evidence and the chain of custody, instead of a couple of dipshits who forget to label every baggie and throw everything to a box and toss it in the back room someplace.
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csi made it seem like it was well funded/overfunded in the labs and investigations too. im pretty most of the funding goes into PR/campaigning and police salaries and pensions, rather than the operations to solve crimes.
Brooklyn 99 was a genuinely good comedy
It was also copaganda
On the bright side, as far as copaganda goes it is pretty mild.
The cops are portrayed as human, and more often than not as incompetent idiots, the federal agents are almost exclusively portrayed as assholes, they never portray violation of rights or due process as as a necessary evil, prison is portrayed as, quote, “real bad”, a pseudomasculine bigot gets punched in the face, a racist stop-and-frisker is unequivocally an asshole, the most competent cops eventually get sidelined, punished, or straight up quit in moral protest…
It is copaganda, but by the last season post-COVID and post-Floyd, you can feel the wind completely fall out of their sails. They try to wrap up the story quickly while acknowledging the ongoing horrors, and they do their best to recognize the role they played in romanticizing law enforcement by making it clear that everyone on the squad is disillusioned and disturbed by the system.
Several of them flat out quit, and they have an incredible scene of corruption in action where they make it clear that fixing the NYPD through its own internal buearacracy is literally impossible.
Still copaganda for most of the show’s run, and also absolutely a genuinely good comedy.
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I don’t disagree
I don’t know. If anything it shows how blatantly corrupt cops are, it is that show.
Fantasy comedy
Much like The West Wing
Watched it all again last year. Love me some competency porn.
It wasn’t. It had a few good lines/scenes, but not very funny to me at all. Couldn’t make it through the first episode, Sandberg just isn’t funny.
You kinda have to give any American sitcom at least half a season before you can really judge it. They pretty much all start out rubbish and it’s only when the actors grow into the roles can you tell if it’s actually gonna be good.
FWIW Brooklyn 99 was very much an ensemble comedy by the time it got going rather than primarily focusing on Samberg, even though he was still ostensibly the lead role.
I tried. I like all the actors, but Sandberg and just couldn’t do it. I’d rather rewatch scrubs or the office again.
Sorry I just said that because you said you couldn’t get through the first episode—I don’t think I’d have thought it was any good if that was all I saw either. The standard American sitcom rule I follow is 4-6 episodes before I can really tell if it’s actually gonna work, until that point the characters usually come across as 1 dimensional even if it ends up being good.
But fair play regardless, everyone likes different stuff!
No I get it. It took a few tries to get started in the office and in the wire also. I just don’t have the time anymore to wade through stuff that I just don’t really care for.
Right but just because you personally didn’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t a good comedy. I understand that you are now saying it’s not something you personally care for, but your original comment was stating that it being bad was objectively true. Like, I can say that I think The Simpsons is a bad comedy, and I could provide a bunch of data to back it up but I can’t say that The Simpsons is a bad comedy, because how did it get to 36 seasons in counting if people weren’t enjoying it?
Yeah as much as I love Jake and Amy and Captain Holt, B99 is copaganda. Once I saw it that way, I couldn’t watch it anymore.
CSI was fun but not as thirsty/sucking off as NCSI. on a several instances the showrunner was virtue signalling at the end of the episode for them, with a message.(its military propaganda but also ties into copaganda too since its on the “civilian side”
What do detectives do when there’s nothing to detect?
Desk pops.
investigating non-wealthy neighborhoods.
Harass minorities with “probable cause”
Spinning chair.
TV would also have you believe being President of the US is somehow not a job for a clown.
I worked in a warehouse many years ago, one of the office people also worked in a cop shop. She said the people that worked in the sex crimes dept spent very little time in the dept before moving on because of how fucked up they would get working those crimes.
L&O: SVU was so much stupidity with the same 6 cops working there but not commiting suicide from having to deal with sex crimes 24/7/365.
I 100% guarantee you there are very proper, professional teams of investigators who do prosecute rape thoroughly.
For women with rich dads.
*white women with rich dads
FTFY
… what?
They’re replying to your lemmy post from a Mastodon instance. It just looks like they’re tagging you. Just think of it as a Twitter reply
Apart from posts from lemmy instances not appearing as hashtags on mastodon (afaik), despite posts on mastodon appearing in the hastaged communities, not removing the #s and @s is also something I don’t like about the current lemmy/mastodon implementations
The @s and #s are because Mastodon clients usually add them automatically and the person did not remove it, but they are not part of the integration implementation.
Like this comment is from Mastodon.
Oh lol
Then I should patch my client to manually remove those
I had no idea mastodon was even plugged into Lemmy. Thanks for the clarification <3
All the fediverse stuff is pretty well plugged into each other, how well they interact is another matter though. I’m wishing for the day when federated ID happens so the same ID can be used on multiple platforms.
@[email protected] was testing federation from Sharkey (not Mastodon) to Lemmy. Seems to work.
🤔
In relation the image that the OP posted;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raq7JZ9dDtl
It’s a very dark sketch about police “investigating” sexual assassult claims.
Your link doesn’t work
Thanks, I fixed it.
Hey! Did you hear about the kid who held the door against a school shooter, got shot a bunch of times, and survived? Yeah, there’s a picture of the kid in the hospital with a cop thanking the kid for doing the cop’s job. Because, we all know a cop would not have done the same–or even have been in the building.
The thing that always bothered me about law and order shows were that the detectives would easily believe someone’s alibi as fact and just move on. Then you watch a show the first 48 and all they care about is the conviction probability. They don’t care about facts, just what their likelihood of winning in court would be.
Or just who they don’t like/want to see put away. How many times cops focus on one person because they incorrectly assume they’re the guilty person, so they keep them in interrogation for 15hrs, emotionally and physically abuse them, threaten everything they have and their entire life, lie, manipulate, and just completely wear the person down until they falsely confess? It’s a grossly common problem. And then once they’re in the death trap maze that is the legal system, their life is basically ruined. But those cops get a pat on the back and they move on with their lives. While an innocent person rots away
I liked blue bloods a lot as a show. But damn, the detectives cared way too much about rules for it to be real. Even Danny, (Donnie wahlberg), who was the “bad cop” that broke rules a lot wasn’t indicative of reality.
The irony with the punisher skull is that he loathed crooked cops, and they’re the ones who love the symbol the most.
The new daredevil tv show goes into this
Cause they know he isn’t real
otoh whenever i think of svu i think of
barry allenjohn mulaney doing ice-t being confused about everythingI think of Chris Meloni scowling and occasionally punching people
I usally think of Chris Meloni from Oz and… ok dont worry about where this going.
