• NutWrench@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    The Democrats suck but there’s a huge difference between voting for boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Don’t make me tap the chart.

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    Here is an example of a successful third party in a 2 party FPTP voting system that people keep insisting is impossible in the US because “muh RCV required”

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    From an outsider’s perspective it seems like the Democrats behave like that because the US electorate is genuinely right-wing and need pandered to.

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    I would still take blocking progress to the left over concentration camps every time

    So yeah, if you think bith sides are the same, then I guess it doesnt matter who won. We probably would be here with tarrifs and camps and a dictatorship, but just with Harris.

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      90 million people didn’t vote at all. Trump won with 77 million votes. 13 million more people did nothing than all the people that voted for Trump.

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        Those 90 million people are more correct about the nature of US electoral politics than any Dem voter.

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          There were 3 million fewer voters than in 2020. This was the most advertised election in US history, and more people sat out.

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            “Didn’t vote” always beats out the votes for either candidate, though. A small downward shift in the numbers is probably the fault of Democrats dividing their own base by endorsing genocide.

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              Yup. According to polls, the number one reason people abstained or voted third-party was Biden/Harris handling of Gaza. It’s either an ignorant or arrogant choice, depending on their awareness of Trump’s sociopathy and unwavering support of Netanyahu.

              It wasn’t a small downward shift though. It was greater than the amount Harris lost by, if you count the increase in third-party votes.

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                  There was no opposition to genocide. That would be the ignorant justification.

                  The choice was between genocide, and genocide with fascism. Knowing that, and choosing to do nothing so you feel better, is arrogant.

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                  Hey now, that’s not fair.

                  Israelis and Boers would say that, too. And some Germans, still, believe it or not.

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                I agree. Whether it was ignorance or arrogance, the Democrats are entirely responsible for driving so many people away from the polls and squandering what could otherwise have been a shoe-in for Harris.

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                  Or dumbasses are responsible for the fascist takeover here.

                  Dems aren’t great but it you couldn’t be convinced to vote here it’s not on them.

                  But yeah, keep making excuses for lazy people not doing their civic duty. It’s working out great.

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      Clearly, the answer is to go the way of the Revolutionary Government Junta of El Salvador and make voting compulsory on pain of death. I’m sure that if centrists, neoclassical liberals, and white moderates watched Oliver Stone’s Salvador, they’d think that that system is a great idea. If anything, they’d say that summarily executing people for lacking a voter permit is being too nice to them.

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    What a shit show. (Not an American, btw)

    I wonder, how many “both sides” Americans who didn’t vote (or voted third party) expected Democrats to win anyway. This way they could feel smug for not “voting for genocide” while still getting the clearly better option.

    Now they have to pretend they didn’t fuck up and act as if having a “protect the status quo” democrat wouldn’t have been any better.

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    From what I’ve seen it’s more like republicans fuck everything up, then democrats come in and un-fuck everything. Then the democrats introduce good policy that Republicans take credit for. Rince and repeat.

  • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    You had a choice OP

    1. Vote to maintain a bad status quo
    2. Vote to make things a billion times worse via fascism
    3. Start a revolution

    Instead you chose secret option d. Make ‘both sides equally bad’ memes to justify the acceptance of fascism.

    Always vote against the fascist. Or revolt.

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    Bought a lot of European stock during the trump crash so…

    THANK YOU COMMUNISTS FOR NOT VOTING 😁😁😁😁

    6% total increase in a mooooooooooonth lalalallalala

    Ahhhhhhh bonjour mademoiselle… mon chérie… Ma femme pour toujours 🌝

  • Before you reply to me directly please understand:

    1. The US overthrew democracy in the country I am from
    2. The US installed a fascist king with secret police that terrorized my family
    3. Once kicked out the US supported a dictator in the neighboring country where the other half of my family lived
    4. The US funded both sides of a war between my country and the neighboring one that led to mass civilian deaths, one side directly by giving a dictator weapons and cash and the other side clandestinely thru laundering money by selling drugs in Latin America
    5. Once they lost that war turned on the dictator in the neighboring country and invented reasons to illegally invade. Twice
    6. Toppled the regime and left a power vacuum that consumed all my family that lived there for literally hundreds of years.
    7. Created material conditions in the country my family is from that forced them to leave or die

    You Americans are not the good guys, your country and government is evil to its core.

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      "First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”

      Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." - mlk jr

    • Harvey656@lemmy.world
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      Your on .ml and the the post was from vegantheoryclub… so tankies all around and tons of lies and hypocrisy.

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          Complains about things being simplistic, proceeds to judge things based on what instance they’re from

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            There’s a highly upvoted comment where a dude says Nixon created the EPA.

            Nixon: Who vetoed the Clean Water Act twice, just happened to be president when a democratic Congress overrode his veto to create the EPA, and yet, .ml drinks the lie down. That’s why people judge the instance.