Where is the outrage? Where have all the “humans” gone? Israel slaughtered over 400 innocent civilians in Gaza last night. Most of them women and children.
None of those with #Ukraine, #Canada, #Mexico and #EU flags on their profile raising their voice condemning this outrageous crime.
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The sheikh wandered around the city with a lamp
I’m tired of all the devils and the death, and seeking one human
They said it cannot be found, we have searched, As we said before
That which cannot be found I desire
Rumi
دی شیخ با چراغ همی گشت گرد شهر
کز دیو و دد ملولم و انسانم آرزوست
گفتند یافت می نشود جسته ایم ما گفت
آن که یافت می نشود آنم آرزوست
#poetry #Rumi #Gaza #Inhumanity #Death #politics #Israel #Genocide #WarCrime
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Damn, the fascist American vermin have really descended upon this thread.
I never visited that site, it’s worse than Minds.com and BlueSky.
While Trump attacks every traditional US colony/ally, he is masterfully successful in getting them to all cower and increase division with Russia, Palestine, and in Canada’s case, China as well. All of the colonies are simply shamefully isolating themselves in hope that their CIA handlers will ask Trump to be nicer to them instead of extorting their weakness much harder.
Over 400 in the latest bombings.
Where is the outrage?
It’s there but media and the government are not covering it.
I’ve seen plenty of articles on both the Guardian as well as the Dutch state broadcaster. Both have liveblogs with frequent updates.
Those 2 will surely mention Israhell has the right to defend itself.
They both cited Israel’s given reason for the attack, the response from Hamas, the critique and condemnation from the UN, human rights organizations and several world leaders, as well as an expert opinion explaining that this could mean the end of the ceasefire.
Both were factual and neutral in their reporting.
"But can the Guardian categorically say it stood up as a genocide unfolded and did everything in its power to report accurately? Certainly not. If Haaretz, a newspaper in a country with military censorship of the media, can have editorials openly using words like ethnic cleansing, what’s stopping the Guardian?”
Israel’s genocide was only on pause: for Palestinians woken on Monday night by a vicious wave of airstrikes, the resumption was no less shocking. More than 400 people – many of them children – were slaughtered in a matter of hours, in an assault that reportedly received the “green light” from Donald Trump. This mayhem was swiftly followed by evacuation orders – that is, forced displacement – raising the possibility of renewed ground operations. Israel’s excuse? A confected claim that Hamas hasn’t observed the terms of January’s so-called ceasefire agreement – the terms of which Israel itself has broken over and over again.
I read the Guardian enough to know that it tries to do two things:
A) Provide a neutral, unbiased presentation of facts and statements from all parties. This does include statements from Israeli officials that are false, but they are usually also provided with the context that shows they are false. It also includes reporting on investigations into the genocide, as well as statements from parties that accuse Israel of genocide.
B) Provide opinion pieces that explain what they think about the war, which in my experience is definitely negative towards Israel (which makes sense), see the linked piece that directly accuses Israel of genocide as an example.
I don’t think moving goalposts to reframe a media outlet that is clearly very critical of Israel as having a pro-Israeli bias is a productive use of time and energy.
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/david-cronin/how-guardian-told-me-steer-clear-palestine
You probably think Kid Starver or the US dems are in some way left too.
Did they mention that Israel is blatantly lying about its reason?
Did they mention that Israel has repeatedly violated the ceasefire?
Did they identify that Israel is committing genocide?
Did they avoid calling the government of Gaza “a terrorist organisation”
Did they avoid calling IDF soldiers taken as prisoners of war “hostages”?
Here’s the Guardian article on the condemnation of the attacks: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/18/un-human-rights-chief-voices-horror-at-israel-new-gaza-strikes
It does include that Israel is accused of genocide by multiple parties and explicitly includes Turkey’s response, which also directly accuses Israel of genocide. The French response calls out the Israeli justification, saying there’s no identifiable military objective.
They do name Hamas, but not as a terrorist organization.
Here’s a slightly more recent article that focuses on Israel’s justification and Netanyahu’s comments: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/18/israel-gaza-strikes-deaths-latest-update
It contains the justification that Israel provided, but also additional context (e.g. the actual terms of the ceasefire) that show a stark contrast between the ceasefire agreement and what Israel is doing now. The article also highlights the human suffering this has caused. It also concludes by showing the disproportionate death toll that Israel has inflicted on Gaza.
Here’s an opinion article published today from one of the main columnists that is very explicit about the genocide in Gaza: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/19/imagine-silent-terrible-evil-committed-gaza-inaction-censorship
So maybe let’s not attack media outlets that do actually show what is going on and that are willing to call it what it is?
I won’t bother with the Dutch state broadcaster because I doubt you speak the language, but with them it’s mostly the same story, though they don’t have opinion articles and the liveblog posts are a bit more concise. But they too have reported on ceasefire violations by Israel and the ICC case for genocide against Israel, and they often have expert opinions that also call out the disproportionate violence from the Israeli side.
Here’s the Guardian article on the condemnation of the attacks: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/18/un-human-rights-chief-voices-horror-at-israel-new-gaza-strikes
Hey, that one’s actually good, only issue being one instance of “Hostages” vs “detainees”
Here’s a slightly more recent article that focuses on Israel’s justification and Netanyahu’s comments: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/18/israel-gaza-strikes-deaths-latest-update
This one is pretty damn bad though, spending a disproportionate amount of time uncritically repeating the lies and rhetoric of Israel, it also repeats the lie of Hamas starting the fighting by “attacking Israel” as well as not differentiating between civilian and military casualties on October 7th, before immediately giving a comedicly low death count for Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
Here’s an opinion article published today from one of the main columnists that is very explicit about the genocide in Gaza: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/19/imagine-silent-terrible-evil-committed-gaza-inaction-censorship
A good editorial, not that it too talks about how bad the media has been.
So maybe let’s not attack media outlets that do actually show what is going on and that are willing to call it what it is?
I mean, they’re still extremely hesitant to actually call it what it is, instead resorting to qualified “some say” framing, while also giving equal consideration (or sometimes greater) to obvious lies from Israel. Don’t get me wrong, the guardian is way better than most, but that a relative statement.
Hey, that one’s actually good, only issue being one instance of “Hostages” vs “detainees”
Doesn’t Hamas also call them that? Or perhaps it’s just translated as such.
This one is pretty damn bad though, spending a disproportionate amount of time uncritically repeating the lies and rhetoric of Israel, it also repeats the lie of Hamas starting the fighting by “attacking Israel” as well as not differentiating between civilian and military casualties on October 7th, before immediately giving a comedicly low death count for Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
The entire point of that article is to report on what Israel is saying. So I’m not sure how that can be disproportionate if it exclusively talks about what it says in the headline. I think it makes sense for a media outlet to also report what Israel says, even if it can be disproven (and the Guardian does add that context). The Guardian here objectively reports on what Israel says, which I think is an important function of a news outlet. The Guardian also mentions that the “eruption of violence” started on October 7th, and I’m pretty sure that’s objectively true as well. Before that there was a very uneasy “peace” with plenty of violence to go around, but nothing to the scale of what we saw on Octobee 7th and beyond. Note how the language used doesn’t explicitly blame Hamas for the entire conflict.
The “comedically low death count” is the count as reported by the Gaza health ministry. Of course more people have indirectly died as a result of the war, but that’s a different statistic. Not sure what you want the Guardian to do here, unless you think Hamas is also fudging the numbers or something(?)
Any mention of this being going on since the nakba of 1947?
There was no war in israel before oct 7.
Like there was no war in ukraine before 2022.
Who needs in-depth background when it’s inconvenient?Step 1. Pick the start date of history.
Step 2. Enemy can only hate freedom for unprovoked attack, because history never existed before step 1,
@index I’m not seeing it on social media either.
Some small scale actions but nothing like those in south korea or other places
@index I’m not seeing it on social media either.
On the fediverse there is
That is only bcs it is still small and has no impact.
The socmed that matters has long been put under control by the regime.
Or banned like TikTok if they can’t.
I’ve been negative on what’s going on in Israel for a long time, but I admit I’m not overly motivated to go into the streets and clutch my pearls in dismay.
The Canadian govt and organisations in general, to my understanding, aren’t really giving a ton of weapons for use in this crap. And clearly, our government’s stance has basically zero weight with other countries at this point – especially with the USA trying to annex us / starting preparations to conduct a Russian style invasion (they’re listing ‘fentanyl’ as a WMD next, so that they can use the tiny amount that crosses their border as an excuse to invade their neighbours it seems).
The issue of the USA falling apart, given its historic central role in most western/democratic pushes, is a bigger issue for most of us, than the deterioration of an area that lacks democracy. I mean, the USA’s authoritarian trend is what’s enabling Israel to do these things in some ways. The states falling apart is also a lot more ‘directly’ impactful for citizens in western countries – we notice when the USA decides to wage an economic war against us, more than we notice the atrocities occurring on the other side of the world.
There’s also only so much time you can dedicate to ‘protesting’, in between working a regular job to provide for your basic necessities. People’re tired man, and focusing on the protests that mean the most to them.
US Muslims voted for this.
It’s only an outrage in America if a Democrat is president.
STFU
It’s so disgusting to watch libs brigade these threads victim blaming while claiming that their party that was actively facilitating the genocide has some moral superiority.
@yogthos it’s really infuriating
Seriously, genocide is the lowest bar ever to clear and yet Dems somehow managed to limbo their way under it.
And now they’re pointing the finger at everything but themselves for their election loss, as if it’s not their job to run candidates that are actually… electable.
it’s especially galling when democrats themselves were the one to cause election loss; but democrat’s proclaim it’s the leftists that caused it.
Right. Leftists are simultaneously so irrelevant as to be not worth embracing and so numerous as to cause the loss of every election. It’s like the Dem version of “lazy migrants stealing all our jobs” cognitive dissonance.
“Enemy is both strong and weak” is the classic fascist rhetorics, plus those fascists jumped right in interesting implication of both treating leftists and muslims as enemy and somehow feeling entitled to their votes.
The “I’m not pro-genocide I just seem to post in every thread about the situation getting worse to gloat” crowd are a wild bunch
What a disgusting, vile, and petty thing to say. Go fuck yourself. What a fucking ghoul you are
He’s not necessarily wrong. Muslims at least in Michigan voted exactly for this when they helped elect Trump.
the different diasporas in the US are highly likely to be reactionaries and hate their places of origin, these are american citizens after all.
And yet the call to vote for Trump was supposedly because Kamala would be worse for Palestine. While I can understand the argument that neither would be good for the region, pushing to elect Trump was always going to end this way with the added bonus of fascism here in the US.
Did they vote for the genocide when they voted for Biden in 2020?
Trump was always going to be the worst pick. There’s no convincing me that Trump was ever the better vote for foreign affairs. I think it’s disgusting that he was voted in and the lies that were spread that he was going to be the peacekeeper were rampant.
That doesn’t mean I personally think Biden was against the genocide.
They voted for the candidate that promised peace and wasn’t actively doing genocide. Trump lied when he promised peace, clearly, but grave dancing because voters were tricked is vile.
We should be agitating them to action instead.
Anyone that realistically thought Trump would help Palestine is a moron. Netanyahu is the person who is leading what is going on in Palestine and has applauded Trump on numerous occasions. It also wasn’t just Biden Congress was the one giving weapons to Israel and they have voting records.
https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024217 what do you know almost all republicans
Biden was actively going around Congress to give Israel more weapons
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The Democrats were already doing that you genocide denying fuck. At least under Trump, you BlueMAGA fascists will at least admit that it’s happening
Trump is a fascist liar. That’s a well-known fact way before the first time he was elected. There’s no excuse for having voted for him in the first place. Anyone who did so is a fucking idiot who’s only going to make the misery spread far beyond Gaza now.
Biden is another fascist liar. That is also a well-known fact.
And while you’re scolding voters for being idiots, the fascist is consolidating power.
We need to work together, not bicker over a mistake people made months ago. Especially since voting might not matter anymore.
I consider spreading misery to the US to be good and right: you fucks have no problem supporting the most inhuman acts to me and mine, you deserve to suffer for that.
Trump has always been a liar, this is not an excuse.
So have Biden and Harris, and they were actively in the middle of a genocide on election day
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I was trying to warn them what was coming
Except that it was already happening, you were just a genocide denier about it when it was your team doing it.
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Incase anyone had any doubt that BlueMAGA lib are every bit the sadistic fascists that their red counterparts are:
How fucking unsurprising of the white supremacist fascist subhuman trash that you are that you come into a Palestine comm and assume everyone is an American. Because you literally don’t realize that non-westerners are human beings that exist in real life. Of course you’ll sleep like a baby while your government exterminates hundreds of thousands: you’re an inhuman monster who loves genocide. You’re getting exactly what you wanted.
LudwigVonPseudonym loves genocide
Anyone with a lick of common sense knew how this was going to go under Trump. At least had the slightest chance to be different under Harris…
He literally was calling Biden a “very bad Palestinian” during their debate as if it was an insult…
Just going to deny that this was already happening under the democrats with the full support of Harris. Anyone who isn’t a genocide denier knew how this would go under Harris, at least we got a few weeks of ceasefire under Trump
There was no chance that it was going to be different under Harris, and people who keep repeating this are the worst kinds of trolls.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that if it makes ya feel better. Wonder if you will still think that once Trump builds a golf course there for him and buddy Netanyahu
I’m not the one trying to make myself feel better. I don’t even live in yankeestan. It’s the liberals like you who keep pretending that the genocidal party you support who are doing the coping here. You don’t have any moral superiority. The only difference is that Trump isn’t making any excuses and hand wringing regarding the atrocities he commits, while you do mental gymnastics to justify doing the same thing. It’s pathetic beyond belief.
Well in that case I’ll just sit back and not give a shit lol. Let Trump level that place
Ain’t gonna affect me anyways so why bother, right?
that’s the liberal spirit
You barely even have to scratch liberals anymore and they go full fascist
you actually expected people whose relatives are being bombed with American munitions, to vote for the ‘most lethal military in the world’ candidate?
You liberals are really something. But you’re here blaming Muslims for not voting. In America. You don’t seem very smart, so maybe the history of Muslims and America is lost on you.
Again: You want the victims of the American military, to turn around and vote for ‘the most lethal military in the world candidate? No wonder America is where it is today. People like you.
Trump says all the same shit and worse, so I don’t get why you’re going on about that. The whole deal with that was to try to get some of the non-crazy conservatives to vote for her as a last ditch effort on a short-run campaign. It was all about appealing to conservatives that weren’t fully on board with Trump.
American Muslims got what they voted for. You reap what you sow. I know plenty enough to realize one wasn’t as bad as the other.
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It was literally happening under the Democrats, you genocide denying vermin.
I never said it wasn’t. Trump is just going to make it worse, dipshit
There is nothing worse than the unrestrained genocide that was happening under the Democrats.
Oh, you mean it will be worse for comfortable western shitlibs like you, who don’t give a damn if every last Palestine gets exterminated, just so long as your politicians sugar coat it with calming platitudes to the domestic audience.
Fuck off, genocide apologist.
That’s an awfully large assumption to make ya dumbass
Nah, you blueMAGA fascists have made it pretty damn obvious. You know, like how you outright said that unrestrained genocide is “worse” when it’s not your team doing it.
Why would US Arabs vote for Harris? They have nothing to lose. Both parties are unwavering in their pro-genocide foreign policy, what difference does it make to the relatives they lost? A person is most concerned with their immediate relations; their family, community and homeland. After so much death and destruction, personal loss and gaslighting by the media, why would they even give a shit? When you lose family, you lose everything.
It is strange you decide to criticise the powerless Arab voters instead of the Democrats who had all the power, money and influence to stop the genocide if they wanted to. But they didn’t; they didn’t care when Rafah was bombed and they don’t care now, because they never cared about Palestinians. This would have happened even if the Dems had won. Punching down instead of punching up won’t help; it simply makes you look like a selfish person who is only concerned with their issues. Criticise those in power, who had it coming because they had all the means to prevent this.
No, Israel-Palestine would likely be very different right now had Harris won. I don’t think it would be where we want it to be, and people like you would probably be saying how Trump would have fucked it up so hard that there’d have been no choice but to ceasefire or some such dumb ass mental gymnastics, but it is pretty obvious to anyone even minimalist informed that Harris/Dem admin would have been a VERY different situation for US support to Netanyahu.
That said, it’s a waste of time to punch down, like you said. A not insignificant number of Arab American voters made a really stupid and poorly thought out choice, but nevertheless, a larger number of the electorate at large made a choice actually expecting this to happen. They are largely to blame and Republicans in general, from voter to elected, should be held responsible.
‘Vote blue no matter who’ people like to say that it would have been different ( with the implication that different would be better) but they very rarely say how.
The few times they do say how, it’s generally the work of minutes to one documentation of Biden doing the exact same thing.
So.
How?
How would it have been different? And, because I’m emotionally drained from dealing with my cat dying, I’m going to specify that it actually has to be better, not just different.
I think Biden allowed genocide to proceed apace in Gaza. Full stop. This is just an attempt to answer your question about what would have been better under Kamala, presuming she would have been Biden 2.0:
Biden heavily pressured Netanyahu to open to border with Egypt to let aid in, even temporarily withholding military support to get him to do it. Additionally, Biden made an effort, however ineffectual, to airdrop aid and build a temporary dock to bring in aid on ships. Biden rolled over for Netanyahu, but there was at least the semblance that he was bothered by the civilian toll and attempted to lessen civilian suffering.
Cite that ‘withholding military support’ thingie @NewSocialWhoDis I’ve been watching VERY CAREFULLY and never saw one word about it.
I got the circumstances wrong, the temporary halt was because he didn’t want the weapons used on civilians in Rafah.
And also it caused a Republican shit storm: https://mccormick.house.gov/media/in-the-news/daily-caller-exclusive-more-100-lawmakers-slam-biden-withholding-weapons-israel
Looks like they did threaten to withhold military aid in the fall over the flow of humanitarian aid, but that didn’t happen.
@NewSocialWhoDis Thanks for the clarifcation albeit I seriously doubt biden had any real control over what the generals do, and in this case they most likely didnt want to piss off Egypt, which has a huge military ground force to match the ones israel and the US DON’T have. Rumsfeld’s leaner meaner army happened… at least the Leaner part.
people like you would probably be saying how Trump would have fucked it up so hard that there’d have been no choice but to ceasefire or some such dumb ass mental gymnastics
I sincerely doubt it.
The genocide was enabled by the Democrats who provided the weapons and vetoes at the UN to keep it going. The Gaza Strip was already 80% destroyed before Trump became president.
I don’t know how you can trust Harris to be different when she didn’t even promise to be different than Biden.
We literally told her and the Dems what needed to happen in order to get our vote: commit to BDS. But they refused, and instead ran two very different campaign ads in SE Michigan and the rest of the country. That was our compromise and that was the Dem’s choice, not ours.
Don’t forget, voting for the lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.
Yeah. But when the lesser of two evils wins, there is less evil.
You know what doesn’t happen when you abstain? Less evil.
The goal is and always should be less evil.
Less evil for whom? The Arabs who lost family and friends to this war? Once you cross the threshold of genocide, does it even matter anymore? From an Arab’s perspective, it’s like asking what is worse, the Tasmanian genocide (which killed every full-blooded Tasmanian by 1876) or the Armenian genocide? What does it matter when both were literally the most evil you can get?
I don’t fault American women/minorities for voting in their self interest. Abortion and queer rights was an issue for many people and they voted in for their rights. That’s a fault of the state. But when you lose family, friends, neighbours and country to a genocide, what does it matter? Family is the most important, after food and water. Death of family is extremely traumatic. And then telling those grieving people to go vote for a butcher against their own raging conscience and blaming them for Democrat incompetence is just evil. You voted for your self interest. They for theirs.
Less evil for the most amount of people possible as stated.
Yes, it does matter, less genocide is better than more genocide.
voted for your self interest. They for theirs.
If they voted for Donald Trump, which an absolute fuck ton did, then no they did not. The thing about this argument is that we just had a protest organizer kidnapped publicly and loudly by this admin. That guy has family. Let’s say that the amount of deaths would be or are a 1:1 ratio in Gaza. That ratio is officially fucked because now we’re attacking US residents. So like I’ve said as many times as I can say it: We are a social species, it is a requirement that we work together to prosper, vote like it. Do the best you can do. Vote for the best outcome for the most amount of people possible.
The best possible for the most amount of people is whatever brings the destruction of the US the fastest.
Also fucking disgusting that that you bloviate about “we have to work together as a species” when you don’t even see Palestinians as human
less evil is still evil
Yes, but there’s less of it, which is an absolutely not debatable good thing comparatively.
Americans having to experience a fraction of the pain they heap upon others is a good thing
whether there’s less or more of it matters significantly less than whether it’s let inside a cracked door where it WILL metastasize, as evidenced by this genocide and a multitude of others.
I’m going to go ahead and add to this, if you are willing cast aside progress in the name of perfection, you will never make it to either one.
If you’re waiting for your dream candidate to come by, you’re waiting a very long time. Your vote should be to minimize pain and suffering for the largest amount of people possible. You cannot in good conscience say that a vote for Trump is that, and when it’s down to two people, you’ve just gotta do your best.
This species functions best from community, we are a social species and our success depends on how we treat each other. Even if you are the most selfish person on the planet, it’s imperative that you vote for most people’s best interest because you will gain the most from it.
Has there been progress in the US since way back in Reagan’s time?!
Because at so many levels, from inequality and the collapse of social mobility to widespread civil society surveillance and support for Genocide abroad, the US has been constantly regressing for decades both under Democrats and Republicans.
I mean, the last actual American President passing measures that one could call “progress” was JFK. Even Obama was the President that ordered the highest number of drone murders whilst in office of all and decided that the way to save the economy after the 2008 Crash was to protect asset owners and large financial institutions - the rich, not the rest - resulting in the steep increase in social inequality and final collapse of social mobility in the US of the last decade, and which created the fertile ground for the growth of support for the likes of Trump.
From my viewpoint as an European, you’re just defending a slower regression, which is understandable but it ain’t “progress” (last chance at that was Bernie Sanders and his primary was very overtly torpedoed by the DNC), and it’s also understandable that others with strong moral convictions and even personal reasons connected to America’s continued descent into evil aren’t supporting any evil in America, even the “lesser” one that slows down the regression a bit.
You would have been absolutelly right if this election was indeed progress vs regression, but it wasn’t, it was one Genocide-endorsing candidate who chose to try to attract far-right votes by getting cozier with the likes of the Cheney family versus a Genocide-endorsing candidate who is openly a far-right populist - two forms of evil differing mainly in delivery style and how fast do they want to go rightward - you blaming people for chosing “none of the above” is pure tribalism.
I’m going to go ahead and add to this, if you are willing cast aside progress in the name of perfection, you will never make it to either one.
Why do we have to keep telling you dipshits this insane logic doesn’t work?
If the democratic party is willing to cast aside progress (being against genocide) in the name of perfect (funding and supporting Israels genocide), you’ll never make it to the presidency.
Why is the responsibility on random voters, vs people who are actually in power and have the means to change policy with the knowledge that the policy is negatively harming their electoral chances? Why is the “electability” argument not applicable to stopping genocide as a reason to criticise democrats, versus, say, insisting we can’t have healthcare because people love insurance companies too much as a defence of why Democrats don’t support medicare for all?
Why do we justify or criticise some policies by appealing to their perceived/assumed popularity, whilst appealing to the responsibility of voters to simply accept whatever is insisted upon them in others?
Maybe if people like you engaged your fucking brain on questions like this, you might come up with some answers that, however uncomfortable they are for you right now, might make you stop defending genocide as a means to divert responsibility from those in power to those who politicians are meant to be appealing to in order to win an election.
this form of propaganda is a false framing of reality to encourge people to vote with the seemingly “less evil” option while ignoring it’s consequences down the road and is a trap that will only present you with “less evil” options each and every time until the ultimate evil is reached anyways, like it has for the gazans.
no one believes that trump is any less evil about any democrat and only people who have swallowed this propaganda believe that any imperialist is good for this or any genocide.
Genocide isn’t less evil. They are exactly the same
How does less evil win? You are literally describing how fascism happens. You need a fucking opposition party.
Theres a genocide and both sides are complicit, there is no fucking less evil in genocide you privileged racist asshole
What is it that you aren’t understanding about what I said? I am strictly talking about the final vote for presidency. Abstaining from that last vote isn’t going to change the outcome. If you’re going to tell me that both sides are complicit, abstaining at that point in time is worthless. You don’t get to just have a new party come out of nowhere last second that isn’t even legally allowed in the election. It was a statement of mitigating damage. I get it that you want someone to point a finger at but it’s not me.
I never said less evil wins, I said less evil is better. I really don’t know how else to explain this. I’ve got another dude in here bombarding my comments wishing for my death and the death of everyone in my country and rooting for fascists to put me in a camp. THAT is supporting fascism.
You genocide supporting scum deserve as much evil as possible to fall upon you.
This comment is about voting. Voting in the US at its final stages is a massive trolley problem. That’s as simple as I’m going to be able to put it. If you guys want to view me saying “do the least damage possible” is me saying “I support genocide” you’re welcome to, but I’m not going to keep entertaining it and acting like we’re all talking about the same thing.
You do support genocide, so long as it’s committed by Democrats, as you’ve demonstrated in this very thread. And I’m all for genocide supporters being crushed by the tram.
Is this your democrats doing a “lesser evil”?
Hey, your country might be actively burning, but at least you can get some happiness from the fact that that people who didn’t vote with you (they didn’t vote against you either, but that’s not perfect enough) are dying, even though your leadership explicitly kicked them out of your party.
I’m glad you found a way to blame a small amount of Muslims for this over the other… 70 million-ish people who voted for Trump.
But don’t you see? It’s the people that voted for Harris that are at fault somehow!
It’s more important for democrats to not change a single thing then it is to defeat the republicans.
That was possibly the hardest thing to take, surviving the genocide(s). The banal evil, the indifference, the apathy, the heads in the sand, so many wannabe good falling to inaction and wilful ignorance upon confrontation with the overwhelm at the horror… some even going back into denial. Horrible catch22s and psychological fatiguing as strategies to further defeat and divide us by. I KNOW it is hard, but still have compassion and sympathy for those who succumb to losing theirs, while encouraging them back to sense of empowerment, reassuring them, there is something they can do, they will seek it, find it, and do it. On and on. No room here for defeatist self fulfilling prophecies of despair and ignorance. Awaken, mendwards, because it’s necessary. Amazing grace… We’re not done here. We can still mend this.
too busy vandalising Teslas I presume.
Priorities for the libsvandalising Teslas
Not nearly enough of that going on to keep us from protesting. TBF we could stand to be burning a few more teslas AND get in some solid protesting.
Would be nice to have a community covering protests and amateur journalists anonymously posting, but then I don’t want the government farming videos of that for targets.
Nobody can have nice things I suppose.
My comment clearly went over your head.
You don’t seem to possess that capability.
Not surprised.
Someone who thinks cowardly hitting the lowest in the food chain by burning their car and causing huge environmental dammage is in someway good wouldn’t have the cappacity to grasp that.See that’s what i’m talking about! That right there! Where do you even get troll gigs? Is there a darkweb site? a waiting list?
Man these lame comments are so boring and predictable is this a feeble attempt to be funny?
You truly are american dumb.
Blocking you now loser
One of them got so mad when I said Tesla has become the plastic straw moment of Americans today.
It had to retreat to its safe space of ultimate moral superiority, poor thing.
Jews.
🇨🇦 My MEP will be having a Q&A in a week and I will go and pressure him on this. I’m not sure what more I can really do.
FUCK Zionists and their supporters
*Looks through comments … I think I found the outrage.
Did you not see my avatar change?!!!
I’m on the barricades here!!!@WhatSay you are joking, right?
The needle is moving. The latest genocidal attack has received far more negatively loaded coverage for Israel than ever before. Even TheGuardian and Reuters are starting to name Israel as perpetrator in their headlines. European countries are condemning Israel. Keep pushing for public awareness. Soon politicians will openly start condemning Israel because the overton window has shifted.
There is only so much capacity for people to pay attention to stuff. Eventually people get numbers to this kind of tragedy. It’s a defense mechanism.
That is how it works. Usually.
You don’t have the energy or time to be brothered about the atrocities happening in the world, specially when the victims are not relatable to most the “civilized westerners”.
You don’t have the energy or time
The system is designed and shaped around you not having any time or energies to do anything that isn’t what you are told to do.
Yeah, it’s not that. I have yelled at people, snapped at my friends, and family over what’s happening in Gaza. There is only so much a person can handle mentally. For the record, I do not support what is happening, and I will not sit here and listen to someone tell me this is my fault. I am one God damn person. They are deporting and arresting the people protesting for Gaza here in the U.S.
In addition to this I feel like there is severe fatigue over conflict in the middle east. It just seems like an absolutely neverending shit storm of violence and turbulence and no matter what there will be fighting. I’m an old bastard at this point and it genuinely feels like every day of my life there has been something going on over there. It always sucks and it’s always a tragedy but if it goes on long enough people just grow numb to it. It’s normalized to a large extent now. It sucks.
I’m sorry I don’t buy this.
I say they CHOOSE to not see it for their own selfish benefit and it might inconvenience their little bubble.
They know they are part of the system and that they are guilty AF.Arundhati Roy mentioned! I love her books!
I want my country to stop supporting this
