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To Be Destroyed

  • skozzii@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    He did say he would be bringing prices down on day 1, just didn’t clarify he meant stock prices, not grocery prices.

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      3 months ago

      Ok just to clarify your first point: 60% of Americans have either a 401k or Roth IRA. The stock market is not the be all and end all economic factor but it does affect a large swath of Americans.

        • 13igTyme@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          Then your friends and people you know are morons. If your place of work provides a 401k or 403b, you can talk with an advisor for free to decide how you want to invest and how much. There is pitiful amounts of money in them because they didn’t add anything beyond the minimum and whatever their employer is matching. It’s also a good way to lower your tax burden at year end.

          If your employer doesn’t have 401k or 403b, it’s even more important to have a Roth IRA. You can’t put as much into it each year and it’s post tax dollars, but it’s better than thinking you’ll ever get social security in 20-40 years.

          • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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            3 months ago

            401k is a scam that was used to help kill pensions. The only reason to use one if your job locks part of your pay behind matching some of your contributions.

            Even the tax savings is a lie. It’s just a deferment and you pay the full income tax rate on it when you are eventually forced to withdrawal it. Even on the gains if you’re lucky enough to be up when you need it.

            • Cgers@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              3 months ago

              It also systematically intentionally forces the most vulnerable to be entirely dependent and aligned on capitalism

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              3 months ago

              Yes. You eventually pay the taxes on it. However, there is this thing you’ve never heard of called “Marginal Tax Brackets” This makes it so that when I do eventually pay the taxes on it, I’m not paying at the income level of when I was employed and instead much lower when I’m retired.

              Pensions are better, but calling a 401k a scam just makes you look stupid.

              • JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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                3 months ago

                If you have enough in it to live comfortably, it’s not better than rolling your own and paying at the capital gains rate. To actually save you better really like tuna fish sandwiches.

                • 13igTyme@lemmy.world
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                  3 months ago

                  I would suggest you learn a little more about how Capital gains tax rates, both short-term and long-term, are impacted on a 1099 form, before talking about tax breaks, tax brackets, or investments. Please do not give anyone advice. You are not a financial advisor and the advice you are giving, would ensure no one has a life or savings before or even after retirement.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Yeah, right.

      “Normalizing” = we dgaf what happens to everyone’s finances because we’re completely insulated from the effects.

  • buwho@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    whos cashing all this out? and are they paying taxes on it? like how does it work? can you just move your assets/ close out on positions and immediately shove them into some compounding interest account but still capture all the profit, with no capital gain tax?

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      3 months ago

      I’m fairly certain until you put the money in your bank account and out of your brokerage account. You can do whatever the hell you want, but I also don’t trade like that.

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      3 months ago

      Depends which country you live in. But in the US you’d still pay capital gains tax over it I reckon. Since it applies at the moment of the sale of an asset. Unless it’s a IRA or 401k then you pay income tax at withdrawal. Of course you pay the taxes end of year. So you can still put it in a savings account and receive interest on all the profits before you have to pay tax

      If those stocks were held less than a year you pay income tax over all your short term trades total realized gains end of the year.