- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
- cross-posted to:
- [email protected]
edit: As I’m seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That’s a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada’s excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world’s federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won’t be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world’s 196, we’re leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I’LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here’s the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: [email protected])
I want to add my voice to the others asking for tranfering to a new mod team. You don’t have to kill the community, let people who want it on blahaj.zone keep using it. The worst that can happen is the quality of posts being lower.
Exactly. Not letting the community have a say in what happens to the community is a dick move.
if you’re concerned about defederation, why would you go to lemmy.world, which seems no better on that front than lbz?
.world is too big already, also I understand your moderation concerns but this is a large change that I don’t think has been thought through. Why not move to a smaller instance to strengthen federation, or make your own if you can afford to host it?
fuck off
How does this comment not violate instance rules?
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The reason the mods are leaving is due to an issue where the instance admin would remove comments from this community for breaking the instance rule of Empathy which has the guideline of:
If your comment is designed to hurt someone, this isn’t the space for it.
How is “fuck off” anything but a comment designed to hurt someone?
Hahaha fuck off is so tame tho. My friends and I say it to each other all the time.
fuck off too
WHY ARE U MOVING INSTANCE?
A single drawn out argument over a not even that controversial mod decision. Very sad that the blahaj admins allowed this mod to fuck over this whole community for no good reason and against the will of basically the entirety of this community.
if i could downvote, i would! >>>>>>:((((((((
this is a VERY UNCOMFY move!!! >>>>:((((
just to make it obvious, these are ANGRY FACES!!!
(im saying this cuz maybe 196 mods or whatever cannot understand these kinds of emotions)“>” are the ANGRY EYEBROWS! “:” are the EYES and “(” is the SAD MOUTH!!!
I AM VERY SAD! i will NOT lurk on ur evil .world “replacement”.
this is NOT what the FEDIVERSE IS MEANT TO BE!!!
the fediverse is meant to be DECENTRALIZED!!! across MULTIPLE INSTANCES!
this is NOT a “very fediverse move” you are doing here. This is a “reddit move”!
im gonna say it. this is straight up u/spez stuff happening here.
i HOPE that my comment gets blocked or removed by my instance maintainers, so that it becomes OBVIOUS that such hatespeech, which is allowed on .world is NOT OKAY!
(yes i mean my hatespeech rn, im in evil mode today, this is very evil, i dun like this at all. will not support this evil behavior)
It’s weird - you and I have never interacted, and we’re usually engaging in totally different discussions in the fediverse, but every time I see a post from you my first thought is “We must protect Smorty at all costs. If Smorty stops posting, the fediverse has lost its way.”
#makesmortyhappyagain
sorry for anticlimacting the angry mood but the angry faces made me want to hug u >v<
Fuck off, dividing a marginalized community over petty shit.
very sad. i can barely use lemmy.world communities as they take weirdly long to federate with my tiny instance. for example, from my instance i can only see the pinned posts on the new 196, and it has been pending subscription since yesterday.
seriously? that’s a bad decision.
Gonna be real sad to lose such a large part of my feed. Hope things do well for you over there.
I guess those ideological issues were the acceptance and safe space for queer people, but fuck us I guess. Don’t worry, we won’t hop on over to the shit show.
Maybe we can start a 197 like how 196 came from 195.
What a shitty fucking take from some power tripped mods.
very much agree! <3 but also >;(
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20937206/12464713
looks like the main differences are about what counts as violations and how to deal with them:
196 mod said:
sometimes we’ll see people getting banned or comments getting removed for relatively mild takes. We also often disagreed about the severity of the actions, like ban lengths being way too long considering the reason, or people getting banned over something that really should just be a removal.
Ada’s response:
every post and user I removed was due to queerphobia, transphobia, trolling or spam, issues that broke the instances rules. Some of that bigotry was was implicit rather than explicit, like dog whistles, tone policing etc. Some of it was the “just asking questions” transphobia that pervades most corporate owned social media spaces. … As moss said, this is ideological differences in how low grade transphobia and queerphobia should be dealt with. moss is ok with community pushback for the low grade stuff rather than moderation, whereas I’ll just remove it.
So it’s not as simple as queer acceptance vs not, but rather what counts as a violation and how severely those rules are enforced.
They could still transfer the existing community
Sorry, I’m just not sure what you mean by this or what it has to do with my comment.
While there are differences in moderation styles as you detailed in your post, that does not explain why they couldn’t just leave the Blahaj community open, potentially to Blahaj admins who would call for a new mod team rather than locking it down.
Yes, completely agree.
Yeah and it looks like the admins of blahaj are with the mod team on this, so i assume there wont be any reopening of 196 here. That means either 197 on blahaj or move to a different instance. I feel like the former would just lead to a repeat of the same story tho, if the instance admins here are ok with this kind of behaviour.
It would be a power move if they just purged all the .world people from this community with this move and then reopened the community without the old mods.
Well, it doesn’t seem to be a joke, guess the mods like admins forcing changes to moderation policies, unless users throw a massive shit storm.
:(
.world is already way too centralized, and way less friendly. downhill we go I guess.
Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.
Rule: You must post before you leave.
OK, we saw your post. You can leave now.
Disappointing